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Question for Akhan Steven Caruso - Syriac Shibboleth ?
Paul Younan Wrote:Nice, thanks for the confirmation, Akh. A few hours after I posted, I also found reference to a recently-discovered fragment of 1Enoch from the Dead Sea Scrolls. 1 Enoch 7:14 reads "and they began to injure ..." using $-r-y. Interesting attestation in that dialect as well.

Langlois' recent work? Good find on that one. :-)

Quote:What brought my question up was the clear evidence of nouns and adjectives derived from $-r-y in the Western dialects, but no (readily apparent) direct usage as a verb in the lemma summaries (which I found odd, of course, considering almost all of our Aramaic nouns and adjectives are rooted in verbs.)

Yeah there are a lot of them.

But when it comes to verbs, especially, sometimes the glosses listed as "Com." aren't really common, and more often than not some actual common uses among Western Aramaic dialects or Mandaic aren't properly labeled.

For /$ry/ "to begin" is tucked under pa'el ("D") as the primary gloss and marked common, but since there is only one citation (and the glosses under pe'al ["G"] have over dozen citations) it kinda got lost. But even that is incorrect, as in Western Aramaic dialects, "to begin" is pe'al, not pa'el. :-)

It's a mess.

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No bother. :-)


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Re: Question for Akhan Steven Caruso - Syriac Shibboleth ? - by SteveCaruso - 01-22-2014, 01:46 AM

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