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trinity doctrine?
What are the aramaic words used for "Lord," "God," and "gods" in Exodus 20:2-3 KJV? "I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

And "gods" in Psalms 82:6 KJV? "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High."

I read in "Was the New Testament Really Written in Greek?" that "Alaha" was used for both our Father and for Jesus Christ, showing the trinity, but is it used in the above quotes? If so, then that would not be proof for the trinity.
Shlama Akhi John,

Exodus 20:2 has [font=Estrangelo (V1.1)]0yrm[/font] Marya for "LORD" and [font=Estrangelo (V1.1)]0hl0[/font] Elaha for "God". For "gods" , it has [font=Estrangelo (V1.1)]Nyhl0[/font] "Elahin", a different form from Elaha, to show the distinction between "God" and "gods".
"Elahin" also has seyeme marks above it to indicate a plural noun, whereas "Elaha" does not.

The Aramaic OT, however, simply reflects the Hebrew, as it is translated from the Hebrew.Hebrew has "Yahweh" for LORD and "Elohim" for "God" and "Gods", in Exodus 20.

Psalms 82:6 in The Peshitta again has "Elahin" for "gods", a plural form of "Elaha". The Hebrew makes no distinction.The Hebrew "Elohim" is a always a plural noun, indicating three or more "Mighty Ones". When used for the Creator,
it is accompanied by a singular verb or singular verbs and pronouns, indicating unity and solidarity of nature ,will and action:
In the beginning Elohim (plural) created (singular verb) ....
And Elohim (plural) said (singular) , let us
make man in our image, after our likeness.
So Elohim created (singular) man in His image after His likeness, created (singular) He him, male & female created (sing.) He them.

Here we find unity of plurality in "the Elohim".
Usually the pronouns associated with it are singular "He,Him,His". Several times they are plural: "We, Our, Us".

In Psalms 82:1 & 6 , Elohim is plural in form and in meaning, as no singular verb or pronoun is associated with it, hence all ancient versions, Peshitta, Greek LXX, Latin Vulgate, Targums, indicate "gods" there, as in 250 of the 2606 times
Elohim is found in the OT.
Psalms 82:1 has "Elohim stands (singular participle) in the congregation of the mighty ("El"),
He judges (singular) among Elohim.

It is clear in the OT where Elohim refers to "gods"
and where it refers to "God".

But the clincher for the Deity of Christ is found in the words "Marya" and "Yahweh".
The NT Peshitta uses "Marya" 239 times. The OT Peshitta has it over 5500 times. Every time it translates "Yahweh" from the Hebrew. "Yahweh" is never used of any but The Supreme Being in The OT.

Zechariah has "Yahweh being sent by Yahweh" several times in its pages(see 2:10,11;4:8,9;6:12-15) Yahweh is pierced in 12:10 "They shall look upon Me Whom they have pierced". The speaker is named in v.1.This is quoted in John 19 concerning the crucifixion of Jesus.
Zech. 11:13 has Yahweh valued at thirty pieces of silver; it is cast into the potter's house.

The NT Peshitta names Jesus as "Marya" 32 times.
It is the Aramaic for "Yahweh". It is never used of anyone but the Creator.
Luke 2:11 has its first application to Jesus:
[font=Estrangelo (V1.1)]dywdd htnydmb 0xy$m 0yrm yhwty0d 0qwrp 0nmwy ryg Nwkl dlyt0 [/font]11
"For He is born to you today -The Savior , Who is Jehovah The Messiah."

[font=Estrangelo (V1.1)]Nwtpqz Nwtn0d 9w$y 0nhl 0hl0 hdb9 0xy$mw 0yrmd lyroy0 tyb hlk 9dn lykh ty0ryr$[/font]

Ac 2:36 Know therefore truly, all the house of Israel, that God has made this Jesus Whom you crucified Jehovah and The Messiah.

[font=Estrangelo (V1.1)]0$dwqd 0xwrd 0tbhwm Nwlbqtd 0h+x Nqbw$l 9w$y 0yrmd hm$b Nwknm $n0 $n0 wdm9w wbwt Nw9m$ Nwhl rm0 [/font]Ac 2:38

Simon said to them: Repent, and be baptized every one of you, in the name of Jehovah Jesus, for the remission of sins; so that ye may receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

Many other examples exist.Just one more here:

[font=Estrangelo (V1.1)]0$dwqd 0xwrb N0 0l0 9w$y wh 0yrmd rm0ml xk$m $n0 0lp0w 9w$y wh Mrxd rm0w llmm 0hl0d 0xwrbd $n0 tyld Nwkl 0n0 9dwm 0nh l+m [/font]1Co 12:3

1Co 12:3 I therefore inform you, that there is no man, that speaketh by the Spirit of God, who saith that Jesus is accursed: neither can a man say that Jesus is Jehovah, except by the Holy Spirit.


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November 18, 2004

Thanks, John and Dave, for the excellent question and very interesting and informative reply.



The Hebrew of Exodus 20:2-3 has "YHVH" for "LORD" and "Eloheykha" for "your God" and "Elohim" for "gods"


Right Dean,"Eloheyka" is "Elohim" with 2nd person singular possesive pronoun attached (K) in place of the final mem - "Thy God" , or "thine Elohim".


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