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Syriac Conversational Phrases - abudar2000 - 02-22-2013
shlomo,
It's been a while since I last posted here, but I think you'll like the following link:
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Re: Syriac Conversational Phrases - Thirdwoe - 02-23-2013
Is that the modern Western form of Aramaic? with all the "o"s instead of the "a"s...? I think its called Suroyo or something like that right?
Shlama,
Chuck
Re: Syriac Conversational Phrases - abudar2000 - 02-23-2013
shlomo Chuck,
The document is written in Classical Eastern Aramaic.
From Eastern Aramaic you have: Syriac (Western) and Syriac (Eastern) -- They are written grammatically the same and have the same vocabulary, except for minor pronunciation differences and some added local vocabulary.
Syriac (Western) uses the long "O"; suryoyo
Syriac (Eastern) uses the long "A"; suryaya
The pronunciation in the document is according to the Syriac Maronite usage, and is in the Classical Eastern Aramaic - Syriac (Western). The Syriac Maronites only use the classical, for both Church and day-to-day.
The Assyrian/Chaldean use Classical Eastern Aramaic - Syriac (Eastern) in Church; and they use swadhaya (Modern Eastern Syriac(Aramaic)) as their day-to-day language
The Syriac Orthodox/Catholic use Classical Eastern Aramaic - Syriac (Western) in Church; and they use turoyo (Modern Western Syriac(Aramaic)) as their day-to-day language
Re: Syriac Conversational Phrases - SteveCaruso - 02-23-2013
Thirdwoe Wrote:Is that the modern Western form of Aramaic? with all the "o"s instead of the "a"s...? I think its called Suroyo or something like that right?
Shlama,
Chuck
All Syriac is Eastern Aramaic. The entire family and all of its subdialects.
Despite the misnomer, Western Classical Syriac's a-class vowels tend to fall on the spectrum of a <-> o rather than a <-> ? as Eastern Classical Syriac does.
(Aramaic "directional" misnomers can be quite confusing. For example, the dialect Tal is a Western subdialect of Assyrian Neo-Aramaic, which in and of itself is a Central, Northeastern dialect of Eastern Aramaic. :-) )