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Check out my small Peshitta website and big book
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I did away with the small proofs articles, added more (like Koine Greek comparisons, Dave's codes etc), new proofs from other sources (this is of course the biggest source, this website), and original stuff. It is currently around 293 pages and is freely downloadable as a pdf file.

With all humility, I find this the biggest and best book on the topic, in terms of quantity and quality of proofs. There is no pride involved, as most of the stuff is from sources like this very forum. I have read Dr. Matthew Black's "Aramaic perspective of Gospels and Acts" and there is no comparison. It is also easy to read and free. Some will probably hate it but hey, can't win over all of you...

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Regards,

Rich
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#2
Dear byrnesey,

So sorry that I didn't response to your PMs earlier. I haven't find the time to read what you posted at your new web site. Whatever you do to promote Peshitta I hope your approach is not to offense others that are not in agreement with you regarding doctrines (e.g. attack on Roman Catholic church, Trinity, etc.) so that they will not become defensive and set up web sites to refute you.

Regarding our collaboration, I would love to collaborate with you or anyone out there. The only problem I have is time. So many things to do, so little time. In promoting Aramaic Gospels, I prefer non confrontational approach. So, there is no need for us to disparage or ridicule the Greek New Testament, Masoretic text of Tanakh, KJV, or Catholic church as though that our knowledge of Aramaic today is better than those early disciples who lived nearer to the time of the Apostles. Furthermore they had done their best to translate the Gospels the best they could. We should not accuse them of fraud if there are mistakes. This is what I meant when I told you that if we ever collaborate, I hope you don't mind that I edit your works before I posted it to my server.

If we present our facts to support Peshitta without ridiculing other translations or churches, I am sure others will be more open to our findings instead of becoming defensive and find ways to criticize us.

I am glad that you are back. I have nothing to do with Paul finding out who you are. Probably he has access to your PM or found out from your IP address. I don't know. That shows that your zeal for Peshitta is genuine and does not depend on others like Paul Younan. Anyway, it is not really hard to guess who you are judging by your posts.

So welcome back! There is no need for you to speak in third person anymore when recommending your website. <!-- s:biggrin: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/biggrin.gif" alt=":biggrin:" title="Big Grin" /><!-- s:biggrin: --> <!-- s:bigups: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/bigups.gif" alt=":bigups:" title="Big Ups" /><!-- s:bigups: -->
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#3
A very interesting website.
It represents a deep knowledge and a brave and independent thoughts.
I see a good future of this website if it promotes Aramaic Peshitta text, Aramaic language, Greek text and Greek language.
Byrnesey, do not impose Your doctrines upon people. People are tired of doctrines. People need the original text, fresh breeze, let God lead them.
You commend Paul Younan for His honest translation.
I am curious how He picks up meanings of a split words.
That is the point in translation,
Therefore, the best thing is to encourage people to study Aramaic to read the original. And, this is easy.
I wish You to have a great forum in Your website.
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#4
Thankyou for your support guys. Dan, please keep our discussion private. And Ivan, yes I am organising with a very big forums place to have a Peshitta forum.

To all, my book is not to offend anyone. If someone finds some things offensive, then it is not intentional, it is stating of facts. If the Greek is a corrupted document, that is a fact, no harm meant to any Greek translators. As for the Doctrinal section, it is very small and deals with a handful of verses, and the point is not to discuss doctrine in detail, but to demonstrate how mistranslations have affected doctrine.

Nobody should be offended by the truth <!-- sSmile --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /><!-- sSmile --> btw I just had a guestbook entry from some Nigerian. That's 3 continents now - my dream to get the book all over the world is kinda half there <!-- sWink --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/wink1.gif" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /><!-- sWink -->

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Rich
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#5
Paul,

I know we never see eye-to-eye. But, if it pleases you to do so, please put my site in your links section. Take a look at this:

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Clearly this book is bringing people to the Peshitta.

I fully understand if you refuse.

Regards,

Chris
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#6
Chris or Rich,
I hardly know you but I sensed the picture immediately.
As this is public and not private post, other opinions have value too.
How can Paul include your website into his links if you declare the COE as false church???? and you try to control other people with your doctrines.
Personally, I vote "No".
Your work on Aramaic primacy is very appreciated, by the way.
As for me, I pay special respect to COE. It survived through unspeakable persecutions through two milleniums, brought the Peshitta to the world, and I believe it has a big or the greatest reward from Christ.
Chris, one more question. Did you copy the Aramaic primacy proofs from this forum? I saw one person left comments in your website that you issued the best source of the Aramaic primacy.
Do not accept that I am against you, I use your words that it is better to know the truth immediately.
I mentioned to Mr. Roth about your doctrines (as he posted your doctrinal article in his website) in his "I now have a website" post in this forum. He said that Ivan, I do not know what you are talking about. Now, I would like to hear his thoughts about your website.
You know, Chris or Rich, I become ignited when somebody tries to control people with his(her) own doctrines, enough doctrines clashings.
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#7
"How can Paul include your website into his links if you declare the COE as false church????"

I understand that. I also understand that Paul links to a Maronite Church and to Andrew's site, even though Andrew has such different beliefs on Sabbath and trinity and law from Paul (closer to me). So I can only hope!

As for forcing doctrines, I am not doing that. If a Greek translation hides that the word "Yeshua" refers to the son of Nun, I am going to say it. That is fact. If a Greek trasnlation says that only catamites are condemned, while the Aramaic says HOMOSEXUALS, I am going to say it. That is fact. That is not forcing doctrines, that is showing how a verse used for doctrine is different in the Aramaic.

Regards,

Rich
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#8
I agree with you Ivan

If this Peshitta is to be revealed in the correct way to people and taken serious, then it must be free from personnal bias, doctrinal issues, old arguements, and such. In many ways, one has to remain neutral.

Everytime it is cluttered with ones personnel issues it suffers. This is no different than the greek side of it. I agree with Paul and many on here that the greek mimics the aramaic. In that sense, it does have it's worth to provide further proofs to an aramaic original,...that in itself should change a few peoples views on it.

Look at what Larry is doing in Revelation. He holds no grudge against the greek so he is able to utilize it to get a better understanding of the aramaic that appears to be behind the translation. It's all part of the investigation work.
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#9
Hello Chris,


Why do you not respond to my emails ?


Dave Bauscher
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#10
Hi Dave,

I have responded to EVERY one. Thanks for that link by the way. I responded by hotmail about making the changes, and I also sent you the updated book from my university email account. Mayhap there is something wrong with your email? I have responded to EVERY one, inluding the "test email" you just sent.

I made the change, I made clear that the intro was mine. And I am glad you like the format.

Regards,

Chris
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#11
Hello Chris,


I just checked out your book. I see no changes in the online version ; The introduction to the chapter in question follows:

Quote:By Glenn David Bauscher


With commentary by Biblecodedigest.com and Christopher Lancaster


The Bible codes subject is highly controversial. Much of Michael Drosnin???s (the man who brought the codes into the mainstream) work is statistically insignificant and fantastical (i.e. his second book on the codes sees him on a quest to find the aliens who planted ???our seed??? on the Earth). However, there have been some significant codes found in the Old Testament, such as the vegetation found in Ancient Israel encoded in Genesis, and the letters of ???Torah??? (in Hebrew) encoded at the start of all the books of the Torah. However, codes work should always be looked at with restraint ??? that a certain version has codes does not prove that it is the ???original work??? or that it is even the work of God.

The Hebrew OT used for much codes work is of the Massoretic version. We all know that this is most definitely not the original Old Testament, as it was produced by members of a different religion (Judaism) to that of the Old Testament, after the New Testament was written, and is full of contradictions. Yet it still has codes. Evidently, even a corrupted form of an original will have codes; always keep that in mind. Of course, since the codes are obviously the work of something superhuman, Satan surely comes to mind ??? who are we to say that the codes are of our God? But many codes involve the names of God. It seems unlikely that Satan would encode any of his works with God???s names or that God would even allow it.



Where are the changes ? This has me saying that I believe the Hebrew Bible was produced by a different religion than that of the OT Hebrews and that it is full of contradictions and is corrupt.

I believe none of that !

Please correct this . I cannot download the pdf version.

I sincerely hope you shall correct your views of the Hebrew Bible; you are sadly misinformed concerning it.

For the Truth,

Dave B.
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#12
Ivan Pavlovich Ostapyuk Wrote:Chris or Rich,
I hardly know you but I sensed the picture immediately.
As this is public and not private post, other opinions have value too.
How can Paul include your website into his links if you declare the COE as false church???? and you try to control other people with your doctrines.
Personally, I vote "No".
Your work on Aramaic primacy is very appreciated, by the way.
As for me, I pay special respect to COE. It survived through unspeakable persecutions through two milleniums, brought the Peshitta to the world, and I believe it has a big or the greatest reward from Christ.
Chris, one more question. Did you copy the Aramaic primacy proofs from this forum? I saw one person left comments in your website that you issued the best source of the Aramaic primacy.
Do not accept that I am against you, I use your words that it is better to know the truth immediately.
I mentioned to Mr. Roth about your doctrines (as he posted your doctrinal article in his website) in his "I now have a website" post in this forum. He said that Ivan, I do not know what you are talking about. Now, I would like to hear his thoughts about your website.

Shlama Akhay Ivanand Chris...

Akhi Ivan, I still have not had a chance to read Chris' website, but I did go through a rough draft of his book. Except for a few doctrinal issues that Chris is well aware of, I enjoyed what he brought to the table. I believe that we are united on this forum by a love of the Aramaic language and the orignal Aramaic NT we call Peshitta. Theology is a secondary concern and should be downplayed as much as possible here. I have certainly many different beliefs from most here, but I respect everyone. And so Akhi Ivan, if you wish, email me privately about the "doctrines" that are a concern to you and I will comment. For now though, let me just say that the Church of the East is a precious and set-apart body. I don't agree with all they do, but then again I don't agree with Rome, Antioch or Constantinople. But compared to the Christianity I have seen (as opposed to Nazarene-messianism) my heart rejoices at their continued survival and their beautiful heritage.

Akhi Chris,

As I indicated in my previous email, you and I have differences too, but that does not mean we cannot share the same scholarly pursuits. I am glad to have your stuff on my website even if some of it I feel is incorrect. We can dialogue as brothers. I am looking forward to reading the revised draft and seeing what you have done. Keep in mind Akhi though that while I am sure your book is very valuable, it is not the fullest possible treatment of the topic. You forget I too have a book, and it is almost twice as long as yours. My first one is also rather large and I hope speaks to many of the same issues. You kind of make it sound like your work--valuable though it is--is alone and supreme in the world. I would never make that kind of claim for my stuff, as even if I was right others would look at me as arrogant or worse, ignorant. There is room for all of our works in this wonderful field Akhi.

Be well!




You know, Chris or Rich, I become ignited when somebody tries to control people with his(her) own doctrines, enough doctrines clashings.
Shlama w'burkate
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#13
Andrew, your post nearly made me cry. Too often, people are ready to judge me due to doctrinal differences and deem me unChristian. They don't care that I spend what little time I have left from working and studying for medicine school to make this book, to the glory of our Father. They don't care that I am very poor yet refuse to have popups or ask for donations on my website. They don't care that I rejected a lucrative publishing contract (with an updated book no doubt) because it is my dream that this information is widespread available FREELY. You Akhi are a class above *tears swelling up, I better shut up now*

And when you are done fact-checking, I will send it back to you with your foreward and a few little extras like a "warning/disclaimer" about the doctrinal section...

Dave Bauscher, I have edited the book and my webmaster (who also runs the netsuperstore I linked to) is yet to update it. I will rush him when I get the chance! As for my opinion on the Massoretic, I cannot be swayed, for it was finally released long after even the Greek translations of the Aramaic original NT were made. And there are contradictions in it. Best we not speak of it, as I don't want any more fighting, and I won't be swayed on that issue due to a few simple facts. I assure you though the book has been updated. Expect it updated on the site within a few days.

Regards,

Rich (please all refer to me as Rich, a nickname at university - maybe because I am poor? who knows how these nicknames start?)


All: My website now has the translation service from altavista. So if you are Japanese etc you can have a look too.
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Akhi Dave, the online version has already been fixed. The pdf fixed version should be up in a few hours.
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Hi Dave,

It has been fixed. Time to de-stress.
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