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Hebrews 5:5-10
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Paul,

I'd like a literal rendering of Hebrews 5:5-10. As you know we read the Bible through at least once a year, usually in different versions. We just finshed the "Contemporary English Version" (CEV). By reading different versions we can, hopefully, catch nuances that really don't come through in other versions. Such is the case with the above passage.

As a former Mormon I have long been interested in this mysterious fellow named Melchizedek. Something struck me in the CEV. It seems that Jesus was not a Melchizedek Priest until after His death and ressurrection. It was only around the time of His ascension that He was given this title and role. I went back and looked at this through some of the other translations that we have read (NASB, ASV, KJV, NKJV, NLT, Message, HRV, NIV, and ESV) and this certainly seems plausible.

What is the literal meaning of these verses and do think that He was a Melchizedek Priest before or only after His ressurrection? I think the correct understanding of these verses hinges on when God called Him and when He was made perfect (as in Hebrews 5:9-10)

Thank you my firend,
Keith
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Shlama Akhi Keith,

The literal reading of the Aramaic is:

Quote:"Likewise, also, the Messiah did not glorify Himself in that He became High Priest, but it is He Who said to Him: You are My Son, this day I have begotten You.

As also He said in another place: You are a priest (kumra) forever, in the likeness (damutha) of Melkizedek (righteous king).

And also, while He was clothed in flesh, he offered petition and supplication with strong crying and with tears to Him who was able to make Him alive from death. And He was heard.

And, although He was a Son, from the fear and the passion that he bore, He learned obedience.

And thus, He was perfected and He became for all those who obey Him, the cause of eternal life.

And He was appointed of God the High Priest in the likeness (damutha) of Mechizedek."

I agree the imagery being painted is one of His being ordained High Priest after His perfection and the resurrection.....but, of course, in the realm of God which is timeless then He must have been ordained for this role from before the creation of the universe....no?

These are always tough questions for me - I struggle with stuff like this. <!-- sSmile --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /><!-- sSmile -->
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