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Bible Codes in Peshitta
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Hello Steve,

Quote:Any codes that you find in the Peshitta New Testament are random fluctuations of the text. Any text of similar length will show random levels of selected words.

Not so. There is a certain number to be expected randomly. That is easily computed by the software; it is based on the letter frequency of each letter contained in the searched word multiplied by the number of letters in the entire search text. Since you obviously believe it is a sin to analyze the Bible statistically, as you said, you don't have software that will search for words and analyze the statistics, now , do you ?
You only believe in codes you can count with your fingers; others are of the Devil, I suppose; kind of like the Amish man who believes a horse and buggy is from God but a car is of the Devil.

Quote:You have wrongly assumed that because they do appear in the TaNaK that they also appear in the Peshitta New Testament.
I have assumed nothing. I have observed them and compared them to Aramaic control texts, Hebrew control texts and the Hebrew Bible, as well as to The Greek NT and several English NT's.

It is you who assumes.


Quote:Also, Aramaic favours the use of certain letters in amounts that may tend to make certain words or "names" appear in a statistical search, more than in a control text. Perhaps this is what you are actually seeing.

No , it is not what I am seeing. The letter frequencies are accounted for in every search text and factored into the equation.
Expected numbers of words is calculated and is a very accurate formula. Only in The inspired scriptures (Hebrew and Aramaic) do we find abnormal numbers of ELS's over many searches.

Quote:It is incorrect to lump the Hebrew Bible and the Peshitta New Testament together and use the term Bible Codes to define both. They are two very separate studies.


You are the one lumping things. I have done very separate studies in both the Old Testament and in The New Testament. You have not, so you cannot speak with any authority because you don't know what you're talking about. It would behoove you to simply admit that rather than make a fool of yourself by pontificating and regularly sticking your foot in your mouth.

You have never searched the Peshitta for codes, except perhaps by the finger method, which is like looking for a needle in a haystack. The code software would be like a huge electromagnet that would pull the needle out of the haystack instantly, along with all magnetic metal in it.

You have failed to point out the verse that condemns Biblical analysis. That is a pretty serious charge to make, yet you seem to shoot fron the hip regularly and run when challenged on it.

The Bible condemns no such analysis; it does condemn bearing false witness and condemning people as heretics without evidence. A heretic is not merely someone you disagree with.
As far as "presuming to speak for God", it seems to me you so presume. You make outrageous charges of sin against me :
teaching deceitful doctrine, practicing divination, heresy, foisting a charade upon others- all without a scripture verse to support your position and all without any proof. You base it all on your opinion, and
hold forth as if your opinion is the Torah and The Gospel.

As far as I am concerned, you have disgraced yourself with your behavior and groundless accusations. You will never shame me with your arguments nor discredit my position, only your own.

If you think you can succeed by posting more of your nonsense, post away.I will only shake my head and wonder at your folly.

If you would do research on the subject, you would learn something about it. There are plenty of resources available. I know you don't oppose putting The Bible on the computer; why would you not search for Bible codes with a computer ?

Quote:Since there is always a random element, I restrict myself to "obvious watermarks". Also, I understand that these watermarks are there fore a purpose, and that is to be a spiritual and literary witness to the untampered text. They are not there for any purpose that would contradict what the text of the Bible literally teaches or warns about, such as divination. The so-called science of Bible Codes research is dominated by those that ignore such warnings.

My "Divine Names" experiment is just what you call "obvious watermarks". That was my entire purpose. What better watermarks would God put in the text as codes than His own Names and titles?

Know I know you have not read my material; you have simply "lumped" me in with all other code researchers and their methods. That is a very big mistake on your part.

Quote:I don't know when I decided this precisely, but some time ago I decided not to pursue New Testament Peshitta Codes.

Fine. That does not mean its wrong for everyone else who searches codes in the Peshitta.(BTW I don't believe anyone else has done so; as far as I know, only three people in the world have a Peshitta that is formatted for searching codes on the computer; I am one of them).


Quote:My deep desire is to understanding the actual text itself. I'm motivated by the need to change the Greek New Testament tradition that dominates Western Christianity. I'm finding the Khabouris Codex very interesting.

I couldn't agree more !



Quote:I keep my eyes and ears open and I know that if there were ELS 50's of TORAH or YESHUA at the beginning of any New Testament book they would most certainly be published by now. Where are they, Dave?

There is no one else to publish them but li'l
ole' me.

And I will; but let me say first that they will
not be merely ELS 50's of TORAH; they will cover the 60's , 70's, 80's and 90's, right uo from the 02's to now and everything between. If you're going to search codes, you search all of them, or go back to your day job.
The Peshitta has more highly significant numbers of TORAH code ELS's than the Torah has; certainly more than any control text.

To be continued !

Dave

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Bible Codes in Peshitta - by gbausc - 11-25-2003, 05:24 PM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 11-25-2003, 07:24 PM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 11-26-2003, 12:43 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 11-26-2003, 02:05 AM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by Vsanzcm - 11-26-2003, 03:53 AM
[No subject] - by Rob Vanhoff - 11-26-2003, 09:02 AM
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Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by Craig - 11-26-2003, 11:52 AM
Bible Codes - by gbausc - 11-26-2003, 09:26 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 11-26-2003, 10:00 PM
. - by drmlanc - 11-27-2003, 07:02 AM
What good are codes ? - by gbausc - 11-27-2003, 02:58 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 11-27-2003, 03:43 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 11-27-2003, 04:04 PM
. - by drmlanc - 11-28-2003, 12:44 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 11-28-2003, 02:33 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 11-28-2003, 04:10 AM
Re: Bible Codes - by Vsanzcm - 11-28-2003, 05:07 AM
Re: Bible Codes - by Paul Younan - 11-28-2003, 05:23 AM
[No subject] - by Dave - 11-28-2003, 08:30 AM
[No subject] - by Paul Younan - 11-28-2003, 04:49 PM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 11-28-2003, 06:26 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 11-29-2003, 01:40 AM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by The Thadman - 11-29-2003, 06:29 AM
. - by drmlanc - 11-29-2003, 11:55 AM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 11-29-2003, 03:42 PM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 11-29-2003, 04:37 PM
[No subject] - by Dave - 11-29-2003, 04:42 PM
bible codes - by Guest - 11-30-2003, 04:58 AM
Re: bible codes - by Guest - 11-30-2003, 05:01 AM
[No subject] - by Vsanzcm - 11-30-2003, 09:28 PM
Re: bible codes - by Vsanzcm - 11-30-2003, 09:32 PM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 12-01-2003, 02:29 PM
. - by drmlanc - 12-01-2003, 11:43 PM
[No subject] - by Ivan Pavlovich Ostapyuk - 08-25-2004, 01:59 AM
What God Coded - by se7en - 09-28-2004, 04:12 AM
Re: What God Coded - by gbausc - 09-30-2004, 12:13 PM
Re: What God Coded - by nashama - 12-06-2004, 04:15 PM
Re: What God Coded - by nashama - 12-06-2004, 04:17 PM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 12-08-2004, 11:57 AM
No Codes in the Peshitta - by nashama - 12-09-2004, 06:36 PM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 12-11-2004, 09:57 PM
Assumptions - by nashama - 12-11-2004, 11:12 PM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 12-12-2004, 02:02 PM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 12-13-2004, 02:57 PM
bible codes - by Yohanan Shaul - 04-03-2005, 02:11 PM
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bible codes - by Yohanan Shaul - 04-16-2005, 03:48 PM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by gbausc - 12-11-2007, 05:15 PM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by enarxe - 02-16-2008, 08:38 PM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by gbausc - 02-16-2008, 11:48 PM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by enarxe - 02-17-2008, 04:16 PM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by gbausc - 02-17-2008, 06:42 PM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by ograabe - 02-18-2008, 12:01 AM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by gbausc - 02-18-2008, 03:57 PM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by ograabe - 02-18-2008, 06:47 PM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by Thirdwoe - 02-19-2008, 02:27 AM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by gbausc - 02-19-2008, 08:04 PM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by enarxe - 02-22-2008, 04:31 AM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by ograabe - 02-27-2008, 12:46 AM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by gbausc - 02-29-2008, 06:23 PM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by gbausc - 02-29-2008, 07:12 PM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by enarxe - 02-29-2008, 08:34 PM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by gbausc - 02-29-2008, 09:26 PM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by enarxe - 03-01-2008, 12:09 AM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by gbausc - 03-16-2008, 03:53 PM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by enarxe - 03-17-2008, 01:34 AM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by Thirdwoe - 03-17-2008, 04:57 AM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by gbausc - 03-17-2008, 08:22 PM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by ograabe - 03-17-2008, 08:45 PM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by gbausc - 03-17-2008, 09:51 PM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by gbausc - 03-18-2008, 09:16 PM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by gbausc - 03-19-2008, 08:44 PM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by Thirdwoe - 03-20-2008, 06:05 AM
Re: Bible Codes in Peshitta - by gbausc - 03-20-2008, 04:59 PM

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