09-24-2003, 07:22 AM
Craig,
I did not read the link you sent because I was denied access, as I do not have an account with that system.
The story of Deborah (Judges 4 and 5) is one of Israel in victory.
Personally, I'm still investigating whether I think Paul wrote 1 Timothy or not. It's vocabulary and concerns are those of later Christianity, an institutional structure that just did not exist in Paul's day. And it was not at all uncommon for books to be written in someone else's name. I will take each book individually, not as a canon decided by some group that may or may not have shared my beliefs.
Do you think I should be drawn and quartered? Am I heretical because I don't accept the NT canon blindly as 'the word of Elohim'? The Church of the East has a different canon than the west. Is one heretical?
As far as your belief is concerned, if you call the NT canon 'the word of Elohim', then at least your position concerning women is consitent with your belief, and I respect that. (Even though we apparantly disagree concerning Deborah and Huldah)
Personally, I've not met any women who have shown any type of skill or leadership ability that I would 'submit' to them as a spiritual authority. But, I cannot deny the examples in the Tanakh.
Shlama w'taybutha,
Rob
I did not read the link you sent because I was denied access, as I do not have an account with that system.
The story of Deborah (Judges 4 and 5) is one of Israel in victory.
Personally, I'm still investigating whether I think Paul wrote 1 Timothy or not. It's vocabulary and concerns are those of later Christianity, an institutional structure that just did not exist in Paul's day. And it was not at all uncommon for books to be written in someone else's name. I will take each book individually, not as a canon decided by some group that may or may not have shared my beliefs.
Do you think I should be drawn and quartered? Am I heretical because I don't accept the NT canon blindly as 'the word of Elohim'? The Church of the East has a different canon than the west. Is one heretical?
As far as your belief is concerned, if you call the NT canon 'the word of Elohim', then at least your position concerning women is consitent with your belief, and I respect that. (Even though we apparantly disagree concerning Deborah and Huldah)
Personally, I've not met any women who have shown any type of skill or leadership ability that I would 'submit' to them as a spiritual authority. But, I cannot deny the examples in the Tanakh.
Shlama w'taybutha,
Rob
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