09-16-2003, 10:53 PM
Shlama Akhay,
Larry, I'm familiar with the rabbinic material you've quoted. I personally think it is a very creative midrashic instruction for scribes to write every single letter with extreme care and the utmost attention. For anyone who writes with the Ashuri script can tell you how easily these particular letters can be mistaken for another. The rabbis are simply stressing the importance of forming each letter correctly.
Women have played extremely important roles in Scripture. There was a woman judge (Deborah), who was at that time the most powerful person in Israel. There was Huldah the prophetess to whom Hilkiah the priest went, and who prophecied in the time of King Josiah. There was Esther (Hadassah), through whom God saved the Jews in thier exile.
According to the Gospel of John, Mary Magdalene was the first to see our risen Master. (For she was held in high regard as a disciple of Yeshua in the Yochannan community)
Comments found in Paul's writings need to be kept in context. If there are women who are talking amongst themselves in the back seats during serious teaching, of course they need to be silenced or asked to leave the room. But the same would go for men who are in any way distracting from the teaching of the word. Every situation needs to be handled according to the Spirit. One aspect of 'legalism' is either enforcing a law inappropriately, or insisting that the lighter matters of the law should outweigh the heavier matters. The emphasis of Paul's teaching in 1 Corinthians is order, not the complete silencing of women. The reason this is even an issue is because there were particular women causing disruptions. "Control the situation! Order!" Paul commanded.
I'll tell you this - if I had the choice of sitting at the feet of Mary Magdalene or some new male Gentile convert who'd never heard a word from the Lord, I'd learn from the former any day!
A man and woman are to complement one another in marriage. Each one's body belongs to the other, for they are one flesh. This relationship mirrors the relationship between Meshikha and His 'edah (congregation). The godly household has spiritual order, and the man is the leader. But the wise man will also discuss matters with his wife before making important decisions. He washes her with the water of the Word, through which they grow closer together as they discuss and chew on it together.
These are my beliefs.
Akhi Craig, I have two questions for you. Where did you get the word 'paqid'? Do you insist that this is the correct term? Thanks.
Shlama w'taybutha,
Rob
Larry, I'm familiar with the rabbinic material you've quoted. I personally think it is a very creative midrashic instruction for scribes to write every single letter with extreme care and the utmost attention. For anyone who writes with the Ashuri script can tell you how easily these particular letters can be mistaken for another. The rabbis are simply stressing the importance of forming each letter correctly.
Women have played extremely important roles in Scripture. There was a woman judge (Deborah), who was at that time the most powerful person in Israel. There was Huldah the prophetess to whom Hilkiah the priest went, and who prophecied in the time of King Josiah. There was Esther (Hadassah), through whom God saved the Jews in thier exile.
According to the Gospel of John, Mary Magdalene was the first to see our risen Master. (For she was held in high regard as a disciple of Yeshua in the Yochannan community)
Comments found in Paul's writings need to be kept in context. If there are women who are talking amongst themselves in the back seats during serious teaching, of course they need to be silenced or asked to leave the room. But the same would go for men who are in any way distracting from the teaching of the word. Every situation needs to be handled according to the Spirit. One aspect of 'legalism' is either enforcing a law inappropriately, or insisting that the lighter matters of the law should outweigh the heavier matters. The emphasis of Paul's teaching in 1 Corinthians is order, not the complete silencing of women. The reason this is even an issue is because there were particular women causing disruptions. "Control the situation! Order!" Paul commanded.
I'll tell you this - if I had the choice of sitting at the feet of Mary Magdalene or some new male Gentile convert who'd never heard a word from the Lord, I'd learn from the former any day!
A man and woman are to complement one another in marriage. Each one's body belongs to the other, for they are one flesh. This relationship mirrors the relationship between Meshikha and His 'edah (congregation). The godly household has spiritual order, and the man is the leader. But the wise man will also discuss matters with his wife before making important decisions. He washes her with the water of the Word, through which they grow closer together as they discuss and chew on it together.
These are my beliefs.
Akhi Craig, I have two questions for you. Where did you get the word 'paqid'? Do you insist that this is the correct term? Thanks.
Shlama w'taybutha,
Rob
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