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The Messiah's Name
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Sarah Wrote:
ScorpioSniper2 Wrote:The word "yeshua" and the name "Yeshua" are different.
May I ask why or on what grounds one asserts that the word and name are different? There seems to be nothing illogical at all in this: His name will be called Salvation for He will save His people from their sins.
I do not wish to put words in ScorpioSniper2's mouth, but perhaps he should of spelled "yeshuah" as the word[H3444] instead of "yeshua". The word yeshuah has a different inflection of yasha than the name[H3442/3443] transliterated as "Yeshua". The word is inflected in a noun form of salvation and the name carries the a verbal form of "yasha". He in action will save His people from their sins, hence bringing yeshuah[salvation] to his people.

Strong's H3442/3443 uses the silent (but anciently guttural) "Ayin" letter to end the word, but H3444 ends in the letter "Heh". While vowel letter under both words indicate they have a similar sounding ending, the different spelling indicates they are two different words.
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There are different vowel pointing under the first letter - Yod [remember Hebrew and Aramaic reads from right to left]. 3442/3443 (JESHUA) has 2 horizontal dots underneath the first letter like this ( .. ). These two horizontal dots represent the Hebrew Vowel point "Tsere" (pronounced Tsey-rey) which produces the "eh" sound as in the English word "Hey". But 3444 has two vertical dots underneath the first letter like this ( : ). These two vertical dots represent the Hebrew vowel point "Sheva" which is a very short "e", somewhat like our "E" sound in the word "Average". [Check the first page of a Strong's Hebrew Lexicon for verification of this.]

Incidentally, the Sheva( : ) vowel point used by the Masorete scribes in yeshuah is why you will sometimes see it written as y'shuah. The purpose of the ( ' ) is to indicate the presence of the sheva vowel point in Hebrew. But as you can see Yeshua does not contain that vowel point at all. "Yeshua" uses the "Tsere" vowel point (i.e.- .. ) which produces an "eh" sound. Wherefore Yeshua and y?shuah are pronounced differently. The Lexicon indicates this as it gives the pronunciation of Yeshua as 'yay-shoo-ah, but yeshuah as 'yesh-oo-aw.

So the Aramaic name "Yeshua" and the Hebrew word "y'shuah" are not the same. "Yeshua"[H3442/3443] is an Aramaic transliteration of the Hebrew name "Yehoshua"[H3091] and "y'shuah"[H3444] is the Hebrew word/noun for "salvation".
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The Messiah's Name - by Gentile - 09-15-2003, 08:03 AM
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Re: The Messiah's Name - by Sarah - 02-12-2013, 02:48 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 02-12-2013, 04:36 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by ScorpioSniper2 - 02-13-2013, 04:11 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 02-13-2013, 06:44 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 02-13-2013, 07:41 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 02-14-2013, 08:38 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Sarah - 02-24-2013, 04:43 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by ScorpioSniper2 - 02-24-2013, 07:14 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by SteveCaruso - 02-24-2013, 09:01 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 02-24-2013, 11:20 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by SteveCaruso - 02-25-2013, 03:43 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 02-25-2013, 07:36 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 02-25-2013, 10:02 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 02-25-2013, 11:43 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 02-25-2013, 05:01 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by SteveCaruso - 02-25-2013, 06:49 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by SteveCaruso - 02-25-2013, 07:05 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 02-25-2013, 07:35 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 02-26-2013, 07:33 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 02-26-2013, 09:00 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 02-27-2013, 04:26 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 02-27-2013, 07:35 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 02-28-2013, 06:22 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by distazo - 02-28-2013, 07:06 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 02-28-2013, 08:01 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 02-28-2013, 09:22 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 02-28-2013, 09:52 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by distazo - 02-28-2013, 10:21 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by distazo - 02-28-2013, 10:23 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 02-28-2013, 10:57 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 02-28-2013, 07:44 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by ScorpioSniper2 - 02-28-2013, 09:20 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 03-01-2013, 12:25 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 03-01-2013, 07:35 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 03-01-2013, 08:08 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 03-01-2013, 04:44 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Sarah - 03-02-2013, 02:37 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 03-02-2013, 05:16 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 03-02-2013, 06:02 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 03-02-2013, 06:47 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 03-02-2013, 08:37 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 03-02-2013, 09:27 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 03-02-2013, 12:14 PM

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