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The Messiah's Name
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Thirdwoe Wrote:If He is no respecter of persons, can we say that He is a respecter of languages?
Why certainly not, yet no matter what languages one uses the name will sound exactly the same anyway, being transliterations are for the express written purpose of reproducing the exact same sounds as in the original language. After all it is not proper to translate much less hack one's name, at will, unto pieces.

Thirdwoe Wrote:Does it bother Him, if we say His name in Aramaic, Latin, or English...or Chinese...if so, does He then demand that we ONLY use the Hebrew form? And if so...why?
Of course it does not bother Him if we speak one language or the other if we are respectfully of Him and His Son. And any one knows that it is not respectful of one if we hack their names all to pieces. Besides as I said before and I will repeat it again, no matter what language one speaks - names will/should always sound the same no matter what. The only reason that names have so-called evolved is due to say Moshay adding a Yohd (which is the 3rd person masculine prefix of the Imperfect tense, not short for "Yah") to Hoshayah's name making it to be Yehoshua (he will save instead of he saved). And the reason names devolve is due to marginally literate people mispronouncing the scholars transliteration. Anywho, Yehoshua/Jehoshua is a proper English transliteration of the original Hebrew name, so if one uses Yehoshua then they are using English of an original Hebrew name not that of the original Hebrew due to the letters are not Hebrew. I would spell the name in different languages but I can not get this forum to use anything other than English letters. But what ever language one properly transliterates this name into they would then be speaking this name in that language, all the while it will still sound the same. What I am trying to say is that Joshua and Jesus come no where near a proper transliteration and therefore it is disrespectful for people that have been told the truth in the matter to continue using such pour transliterations, much less continue to mispronounce them. It is well known that Jesus was to be pronounced as yay-SOOS not JEE-zuhs. Yet as shown even yay-SOOS falls far short of a proper transliteration of this (original) Hebrew name. Again only a transliteration that mimics the original sound of the name in it original language is proper. This name was first created within the Hebrew language so it must be pronounced in the same manner no matter what language one transliterates it into in order to have done so respectfully of the namer or namee.


Thirdwoe Wrote:Is the Hebrew language more holy and carry more weight with Him?
This is a mute question as it only matters what language the original name was created so as to be able to properly transliterate the name into what ever language one might choose to speak it in. How hard can it be to understand that this name was originally a Hebrew Name and therefore, in order to be respectful of the namer and namee, no matter what language one would properly transliterate it into will still sound exactly the same as the name as it is in the Hebrew language. If YHWH named his Son JEE-zuhs in the in Chinese language then I would say that one would need to transliterate that sound into Hebrew if an when they are going to speak Hebrew. All this said Hebrew was the language that YHWH named His Son in and the exact same sound is to be transliterated into what ever language one should speak this name in -period. Plus the original definition also carries across languages as well. Thereby still retaining the definition of "he will save", nothing more nor nothing less.

I am pretty sure that if I started hacking up people's names the same way as The Anointed One's name has been done through the years people would get all up in a dander and I would most likely be banned from here if I did not take heed and start to treat peoples names with utmost respect. Why should anyone think YHWH would feel any differently about people hacking up His and His Son's Names purposely. Yes He holds them that have knowledge far more accountable than those of whom are illiterate. And I would have to say that anyone that has read this thread through, and does the math honestly, can no longer qualify as illiterate much less marginally literate when it comes to this name.

But for the slower people, like that of myself, reading this I will drum/drill it in/home one more time, names no matter what language one PROPERLY transliterates them into will always sound exactly like the original name in the language of its origin. And YHWH (in ZecharYahu [6:9-13]) named His Son within the Hebrew language and then Yehoshua confirmed it in Acts 26:14-15. And we as people either respect YHWH's choose or not. Therein lies the HEART of the matter, to what will we heed, YHWH's proclamation or some poor transliteration(s) wrought by men.

One good example of what I am saying is the phrase HalleluYah. This phrase is world renowned and pronounced exactly the same no matter what language one speaks. Yet it is a Hebrew phrase. Yes when people speak English and say HalleluYah they have pronounced this phrase properly as it is in the Hebrew language yet they are still speaking English. Other people around the world say this phrase in other languages yet it still sounds just like it does in the original language of its origin (i.e. - Hebrew). HalleluYah means "praise ye Yah". We know that The Short form of The Divine Name of Elohim is Yah, not Dah, Pah or Laypew. Anyone that can grasp this has no excuse left as far as The Anointed One's Name goes other than perhaps double checking to be sure what I have presented is truly there in the Scriptures and is the proper transliteration of the original name foretold by YHWH Himself.

So now can I get a HalleluYah?

Awmayn[Strong's #H543].

May,
YHWH bless thee and keep thee;
YHWH cause His face to shine on thee, and be gracious to thee;
YHWH lift up His face to thee, and give thee shalom.

Your Brother in Yehoshua The Anointed One.

will
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Re: The Messiah's Name - by Sarah - 02-12-2013, 02:48 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 02-12-2013, 04:36 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by ScorpioSniper2 - 02-13-2013, 04:11 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 02-13-2013, 06:44 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 02-13-2013, 07:41 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 02-14-2013, 08:38 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Sarah - 02-24-2013, 04:43 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by ScorpioSniper2 - 02-24-2013, 07:14 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by SteveCaruso - 02-24-2013, 09:01 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 02-24-2013, 11:20 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by SteveCaruso - 02-25-2013, 03:43 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 02-25-2013, 07:36 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 02-25-2013, 10:02 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 02-25-2013, 11:43 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 02-25-2013, 05:01 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by SteveCaruso - 02-25-2013, 06:49 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by SteveCaruso - 02-25-2013, 07:05 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 02-25-2013, 07:35 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 02-26-2013, 07:33 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 02-26-2013, 09:00 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 02-27-2013, 04:26 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 02-27-2013, 07:35 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 02-28-2013, 06:22 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by distazo - 02-28-2013, 07:06 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 02-28-2013, 08:01 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 02-28-2013, 09:22 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 02-28-2013, 09:52 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by distazo - 02-28-2013, 10:21 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by distazo - 02-28-2013, 10:23 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 02-28-2013, 10:57 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 02-28-2013, 07:44 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by ScorpioSniper2 - 02-28-2013, 09:20 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 03-01-2013, 12:25 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 03-01-2013, 07:35 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 03-01-2013, 08:08 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 03-01-2013, 04:44 PM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Sarah - 03-02-2013, 02:37 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 03-02-2013, 05:16 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 03-02-2013, 06:02 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 03-02-2013, 06:47 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 03-02-2013, 08:37 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by The Texas RAT - 03-02-2013, 09:27 AM
Re: The Messiah's Name - by Thirdwoe - 03-02-2013, 12:14 PM

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