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The Age of the Peshitta
Shlama Akhi Steve,

Just want to reiterate. It is not now, nor has it ever been my position that all Aramaic dialects throughout 3,000 years were uniform in all aspects.

And to make things clear: I do not blame you for personally inventing the term, "Syriac."

I know you don't use it to merely irritate me or other Assyrians who find the term offensive. You know I'm sure the history of this term among our people, and how divisive this term (along with "Chaldean") has been.

To make my point more concisely:

Assyians took Aramaic and thrust it on the scene as a world language. It became, due to them, the language of three successive empires - one of which wasn't even Semitic.

We call their specific language Imperial Aramaic. Their descendants later spoke a language that unfortunately, among western scholars, obtained the offensive and foreign nickname - "Syriac." Today, we Assyrians are labeled as speaking "Neo-Aramaic."

The fact of the matter is, we are historically one people who have spoken a single language since it was adopted as the official tongue along with our native Akkadian, that eventually died out.

I am talking about a nearly 3,000 year history of Assyrians and this particular language.

I know you didn't invent a term for one slice of that history that totally differs from all the other terms used prior to, and after that.

But you don't help matters when you perpetuate the impression that somehow this dialect was so far removed from the others that it deserves its own designation - a designation rooted in a Greek term of all things.

It's offensive.

You (I use term collectively) afford the other dialects the courtesy of prepending their geographic location to "-Aramaic". So you have "Galilean-Aramaic", "Judean-Aramaic", "Palmyrene-Aramaic", "Hatran-Aramaic", "Nabatean-Aramaic", "Babylonian-Aramaic"....etc.

To be consistent and fair, you would refer to the Aramaic of Edessa as "Edessene-Aramaic."

But you (again, I use you collectively) choose instead to refer to it by a term that would give the otherwise ignorant or unlearned, the false impression that this wasn't the same language that Christ and His disciples spoke.

It is, even if not intentional (and I don't think it is in your case), deceitful.

Call it "Edessene Aramaic", "Adiabene Aramaic", "Assyrian Aramaic" or whatever along those lines.

But don't, for the love of clarity, have the Assyrians go from speaking "Imperial Aramaic" to "Syriac" to "Neo-Aramaic."

Some consistency in terminology isn't too much to ask for. Words carry a lot of weight. You know that more than most people.

I'm not throwing away the work of thousands of people over centuries. I am not diminishing their important contribution to Aramaic study. I am merely pointing out that they are not us, do not speak for us, and have no right to rename our language, the language our forefathers made famous, to another name.

That's all.

In love. Kiss that baby from me.

+Shamasha Paul
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The Age of the Peshitta - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-20-2013, 10:21 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Thirdwoe - 11-21-2013, 01:09 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-21-2013, 02:31 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Thirdwoe - 11-21-2013, 04:33 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Paul Younan - 11-21-2013, 04:45 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-21-2013, 05:06 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Thirdwoe - 11-21-2013, 05:29 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-21-2013, 05:38 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Paul Younan - 11-21-2013, 06:20 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-21-2013, 06:44 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Paul Younan - 11-21-2013, 02:05 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by distazo - 11-21-2013, 04:57 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-21-2013, 07:15 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by memradya - 11-23-2013, 11:49 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by SteveCaruso - 11-23-2013, 08:31 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by konway87 - 11-23-2013, 09:27 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by distazo - 11-24-2013, 11:34 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by konway87 - 11-24-2013, 04:19 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by memradya - 11-24-2013, 08:06 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Charles Wilson - 11-24-2013, 08:11 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by konway87 - 11-24-2013, 09:07 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Thirdwoe - 11-24-2013, 09:18 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by konway87 - 11-24-2013, 09:19 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by SteveCaruso - 11-25-2013, 01:03 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by konway87 - 11-25-2013, 01:17 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by SteveCaruso - 11-25-2013, 01:55 AM
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Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by SteveCaruso - 11-25-2013, 03:37 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by konway87 - 11-25-2013, 03:58 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Paul Younan - 11-25-2013, 05:39 AM
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Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Thirdwoe - 11-25-2013, 08:30 AM
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Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Thirdwoe - 11-25-2013, 11:09 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Thirdwoe - 11-25-2013, 11:11 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Paul Younan - 11-25-2013, 11:24 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-26-2013, 03:54 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Paul Younan - 11-26-2013, 04:32 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-26-2013, 06:24 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Thirdwoe - 11-26-2013, 06:39 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by konway87 - 11-26-2013, 06:55 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by distazo - 11-26-2013, 08:30 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Paul Younan - 11-26-2013, 01:39 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by memradya - 11-26-2013, 07:20 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by konway87 - 11-26-2013, 07:37 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Thirdwoe - 11-26-2013, 07:56 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Stephen Silver - 11-26-2013, 08:31 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by konway87 - 11-26-2013, 08:37 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by SteveCaruso - 11-26-2013, 09:03 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-26-2013, 09:04 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Paul Younan - 11-26-2013, 09:05 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by konway87 - 11-26-2013, 09:17 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Stephen Silver - 11-26-2013, 09:27 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by konway87 - 11-26-2013, 09:31 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Thirdwoe - 11-27-2013, 06:20 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Thirdwoe - 11-27-2013, 08:42 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Paul Younan - 11-27-2013, 02:12 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by memradya - 11-27-2013, 07:54 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Paul Younan - 11-27-2013, 09:05 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by SteveCaruso - 11-27-2013, 10:05 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by konway87 - 11-27-2013, 10:58 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by SteveCaruso - 11-28-2013, 12:07 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by SteveCaruso - 11-28-2013, 12:16 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-28-2013, 12:25 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by konway87 - 11-28-2013, 12:45 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Paul Younan - 11-28-2013, 01:03 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by SteveCaruso - 11-28-2013, 01:08 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by SteveCaruso - 11-28-2013, 01:20 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by konway87 - 11-28-2013, 01:21 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by SteveCaruso - 11-28-2013, 01:30 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by konway87 - 11-28-2013, 01:34 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by SteveCaruso - 11-28-2013, 01:43 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-28-2013, 01:44 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by konway87 - 11-28-2013, 01:52 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by SteveCaruso - 11-28-2013, 02:18 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-28-2013, 02:27 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by konway87 - 11-28-2013, 02:41 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by SteveCaruso - 11-28-2013, 02:47 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by konway87 - 11-28-2013, 02:49 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-28-2013, 02:59 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by SteveCaruso - 11-28-2013, 03:02 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by SteveCaruso - 11-28-2013, 03:03 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by konway87 - 11-28-2013, 03:12 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-28-2013, 03:25 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Paul Younan - 11-28-2013, 03:28 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by konway87 - 11-28-2013, 03:34 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-28-2013, 03:47 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by konway87 - 11-28-2013, 03:53 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-28-2013, 03:56 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Paul Younan - 11-28-2013, 03:58 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by konway87 - 11-28-2013, 04:01 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by SteveCaruso - 11-28-2013, 04:02 AM
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Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by SteveCaruso - 11-28-2013, 04:59 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by konway87 - 11-28-2013, 05:28 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by SteveCaruso - 11-28-2013, 05:57 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Thirdwoe - 11-28-2013, 06:59 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by distazo - 11-28-2013, 07:36 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Stephen Silver - 11-28-2013, 07:47 AM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Paul Younan - 11-28-2013, 03:31 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by Charles Wilson - 11-28-2013, 06:19 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by memradya - 11-28-2013, 06:58 PM
Re: The Age of the Peshitta - by ScorpioSniper2 - 11-28-2013, 07:38 PM
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