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Early Christian view of the Holy Trinity
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Quote:But sin of heresy separates man from God.

Arkady,

Neither Bishop Nestorius, nor Bishop Theodore before him, were in any way heretical in their Theology, nor their Christology. They were ardent defenders of the Apostolic Faith, against many heretical groups of their day, including the Arians and the Monophysites to name but a few.

What Nestorius really taught, was upheld at the Council of Chalcedon, which over turned the wrong teaching and judgment of the Council of Ephesus, concerning the two natures of Christ...which Council (Ephesus) was held without the Bishops of the East in attendance, who were on their way to it, but Bishop Cryil pulled a fast one....Also Bishop Cryil started the arguement against Bishop Nestorius, not the other way around...in which he mis-interpreted and mis-represented him, and falsley accused him before the Council.

If you havent, read both sides of this matter...The letters of Bishop Nestorius to Bishop Cryil and Bishop Cryil's to Bishop Nestorius can be read online and are very revealing indeed. Also, Bishop Nestorius' book on the subject can be read as well online...but you may not take the time to look it over. I have...and it is clear that he was no Heretic, and was falsley accused and wrongly condemned. God does not condemn a man for speaking the Truth.

Quote:Chuck, you talk about this Council in a manner as if some ordinary meeting took place.

If God lives in them, whoever God condemns, they condemn. This is what being spiritual is all about. Those who have the indwelling of the Spirit (or the entire Holy Trinity) will always agree on all points. Because our God is not God of dissension but of consent. So basicly Nestorius had some other kind of the spirit(s) to disagree with others.

God can live in them, and they still can make a mistake in judgement,...and there can be two or more people who are both/all indwelt by God's Holy Spirit, which may not agree upon everything all the time. But the Holy Spirit will correct the matter if it is judged wrongly...and in this instance, it was, at the Council of Chalcedon, which the false teaching of Bishop Cryil and the wrong judgment of the Council of Ephesus. Go check it out for yourself, its all online to read.

You may not know this...but Bishop Cryil was soon after condemned as a Heretic by a 2nd Council of Bishops, held 5 days after the 1st Ephesus Council, and the former Council's judgemnt against Bishop Nestorius was annuled, and Bishop Cryil was arrested. He later bribed Emperor Theodosius' courtiers, and sent a mob led by Dalmatius, a hermit, to besiege Emperor Theodosius' palace and presured him to send Nestorius into a forced exile to a Monastery in Egypt.

And as I said, Bishop Cryil's whole argument/teaching on the Two Natures, in which he wronlgy condemned Bishop Nestorius, was overturned at the Council of Chalcedon in 451.

Shlama,
Chuck
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Re: Early Christian view of the Holy Trinity - by Arkady - 03-03-2012, 06:42 AM
Re: Early Christian view of the Holy Trinity - by Arkady - 03-03-2012, 07:51 AM
Re: Early Christian view of the Holy Trinity - by Thirdwoe - 03-03-2012, 09:24 AM
Re: Early Christian view of the Holy Trinity - by Arkady - 03-03-2012, 11:44 AM
Re: Early Christian view of the Holy Trinity - by Arkady - 03-03-2012, 01:21 PM
Re: Early Christian view of the Holy Trinity - by Arkady - 03-03-2012, 01:53 PM
Re: Early Christian view of the Holy Trinity - by Arkady - 03-03-2012, 04:09 PM
Re: Early Christian view of the Holy Trinity - by Arkady - 03-03-2012, 04:16 PM
Re: Early Christian view of the Holy Trinity - by Arkady - 03-03-2012, 05:02 PM
Re: Early Christian view of the Holy Trinity - by Arkady - 03-04-2012, 08:21 AM
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Re: Early Christian view of the Holy Trinity - by Arkady - 03-20-2012, 06:15 PM
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