10-13-2011, 06:01 AM
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I agree. And I never said that Dave. Please be more careful when you read my statements, so you don't mis-interpret my sayings, and mistakenly put a false version out of something I truly said.
As I have said...The Western Peshitto, is the same as The Eastern Peshitta for the most part, in all its shared 22 book readings, BUT with some verses, being present from other sources, such as the Greek and Latin versions...and there is even one verse in it, (you know which one) that is not found in any Aramaic Manuscript, Eastern or Western, yet you chose to translate it with the rest of what was in the text you used, as if it were part of the Original Aramaic Text. Is it? Where is the proof?
You can't find proof of the "Messiah" reading outside of the Eastern Peshitta Text, so you can't believe that its authentic, yet you can't find Acts 8:37 in any Aramaic Manuscript, but believe it has to be authentic? Why? Because it was in the text that produced the codes?
DAVE...when you put the text in the code finder the 1st time...you said it came up with some long codes...BUT that the text had a few errors in it...that when you corrected them, the long codes disappeared. BUT, instead of learning an important lesson from that event...you took it as a sign from GOD, that He was showing you that you had the Original Representative of the Autograph Text in your hands, minus the errors you fixed in it, and that He had chosen you to translate it into English.
And what about that verse in Acts 8:37? Did God lose a verse of Holy Scripture Dave? I don't think so...Mabye it has just been misplaced by man then, in some forgotten Manuscript some place in a box or on a shelf somewhere? Again...I don't think so.
Dave...The Eastern Peshitta Text...I believe is all the Original readings, as given, without change, since The Church of the East recieved those 22 books from the hands of The Apostles themselves.
You don't believe this seems like...and that is why you don't translate from the Eastern Peshitta Text, but rather from the Western Peshitto version instead. And thats fine. Its good we have a modern English version of that textual version to compare and see the differances, which I have said are not many...but the few that do exist, are important. And much more so, than you are trying to make it seem.
I wonder if you had an Eastern text instead back then, when you put the 1905 text through the code finder program...and you found codes, would you stand for it, like you stand for the other? I think so. You should run an Eastern Text Dave...see what happens.
Its not a conspiracy, its just false doctrine creeping into a text, that was not there from the start. This happens all the time with scribes and translators, that think that their interpretations are the right ones, and go with a reading from another source that they feel is the right one, and translate the verse a certain way to advance their belief as to what the verse is teaching. It?s very simple stuff really.
I believe that the Eastern Peshitta is right in all its wordings...just like you believe that the Western Peshitto is right in all its wording. That is just the way it is with us Dave.
Again, YHWH IS The Word of Alaha/GOD, who does His (The Father?s) speaking and revealing of Himself, mind, and will, in and through, to mankind, and in and through which, He created all things that exist, He (The Word/Miltha) proceeding forth FROM THE FATHER, begotten of Him, not made, before anything was created.
The WORD/MILTHA=YHWH=MAR-YAH=The SON of GOD=Y?SHUA, whom GOD, THE FATHER has caused to be both YHWH & Y?SHUA, in the SAME PERSON. BUT, Y?Shua IS NOT The Father Himself. He is distinct from His Father and He reveals The Father to mankind, whom (The Father) NO man, has EVER seen, or can see.
Blessings,
Chuck
Quote:It is simply a lie to say the Western Peshitta is based on Greek.
I agree. And I never said that Dave. Please be more careful when you read my statements, so you don't mis-interpret my sayings, and mistakenly put a false version out of something I truly said.
As I have said...The Western Peshitto, is the same as The Eastern Peshitta for the most part, in all its shared 22 book readings, BUT with some verses, being present from other sources, such as the Greek and Latin versions...and there is even one verse in it, (you know which one) that is not found in any Aramaic Manuscript, Eastern or Western, yet you chose to translate it with the rest of what was in the text you used, as if it were part of the Original Aramaic Text. Is it? Where is the proof?
You can't find proof of the "Messiah" reading outside of the Eastern Peshitta Text, so you can't believe that its authentic, yet you can't find Acts 8:37 in any Aramaic Manuscript, but believe it has to be authentic? Why? Because it was in the text that produced the codes?
DAVE...when you put the text in the code finder the 1st time...you said it came up with some long codes...BUT that the text had a few errors in it...that when you corrected them, the long codes disappeared. BUT, instead of learning an important lesson from that event...you took it as a sign from GOD, that He was showing you that you had the Original Representative of the Autograph Text in your hands, minus the errors you fixed in it, and that He had chosen you to translate it into English.
And what about that verse in Acts 8:37? Did God lose a verse of Holy Scripture Dave? I don't think so...Mabye it has just been misplaced by man then, in some forgotten Manuscript some place in a box or on a shelf somewhere? Again...I don't think so.
Dave...The Eastern Peshitta Text...I believe is all the Original readings, as given, without change, since The Church of the East recieved those 22 books from the hands of The Apostles themselves.
You don't believe this seems like...and that is why you don't translate from the Eastern Peshitta Text, but rather from the Western Peshitto version instead. And thats fine. Its good we have a modern English version of that textual version to compare and see the differances, which I have said are not many...but the few that do exist, are important. And much more so, than you are trying to make it seem.
I wonder if you had an Eastern text instead back then, when you put the 1905 text through the code finder program...and you found codes, would you stand for it, like you stand for the other? I think so. You should run an Eastern Text Dave...see what happens.
Quote:But you insist in making two words in two verses into some vast doctrinal conspiracy of corruption.
Its not a conspiracy, its just false doctrine creeping into a text, that was not there from the start. This happens all the time with scribes and translators, that think that their interpretations are the right ones, and go with a reading from another source that they feel is the right one, and translate the verse a certain way to advance their belief as to what the verse is teaching. It?s very simple stuff really.
I believe that the Eastern Peshitta is right in all its wordings...just like you believe that the Western Peshitto is right in all its wording. That is just the way it is with us Dave.
Quote:As I have said, if someone were to deliberately change readings about God's blood or God's death, he would need to alter verses in 1 Cor. 11:27 as well as Hebrews 9:16, along with every verse that names Yeshua as LORD Jehovah- "Mar -Yah" (32 places in Eastern Peshitta NT).
Again, YHWH IS The Word of Alaha/GOD, who does His (The Father?s) speaking and revealing of Himself, mind, and will, in and through, to mankind, and in and through which, He created all things that exist, He (The Word/Miltha) proceeding forth FROM THE FATHER, begotten of Him, not made, before anything was created.
The WORD/MILTHA=YHWH=MAR-YAH=The SON of GOD=Y?SHUA, whom GOD, THE FATHER has caused to be both YHWH & Y?SHUA, in the SAME PERSON. BUT, Y?Shua IS NOT The Father Himself. He is distinct from His Father and He reveals The Father to mankind, whom (The Father) NO man, has EVER seen, or can see.
Blessings,
Chuck