Havah Wrote:Some have already known this is Karaite doctrine.
Leviticus
23:15 until the seventh day after the Sabbath, count fifty days; new offering sacrifice to the Lord.
(I used star21 to make such translation)
The Omer 49 used in current mainstream Jewish calendar was not always fall on Shabbath. <!-- s
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Of course I know some people adhere to this Karaite doctrine.
But recently I found they switched back to Pharisaic doctrine. <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/sad.gif" alt="" title="Sad" /><!-- s -->
Which one is true?
sun's-day pentacost is of the Sadducees, Samaritans, and Christian stance on this issue. Now if I remember right the Saduseess where an apostae group that did not believe in Messengers, The Ressurection, and the Ages to come, so they are not one to phylisophically take a stance with in the first place! As for the Samaritians they had no problem perverting the Scriptures to fit their traditions as well! And for the sun's-day worshipping Christians they took this stance so they could promote their easter sun's-day sunrise services!
In LEVITICUS 23:11 Brenton?s English translation of the Septuagint & Charles Thomson?s English translation of the Septuagint both have "
On the morrow of the first day", while the NET (New English Translation) Septuagint has "
on the day after the first". I even looked at an Interlinear and it has as follows:
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On the
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next day
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of the
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first"
Keep in mind that it was 70+ IsraAili priest that translated the Hebrew sciptures into the Greek LXX.
Also we have Targums in Aramic of this verse, that make it even more clear than the Septuegint, as to which day the Wave Sheafs where to be waved:
LEVITICUS 23:15-16
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And number to you after the first feast day of Pascha, from the day when you brought the sheaf for the elevation, seven weeks; complete they shall be. Until the day after the seventh week you shall number fifty days, and shall offer a mincha of the new bread unto the Name of the Lord." {Aramaic Targum Pseudo-Jonathan}
LEVITICUS 23:15-16
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And count to you, after the festival day, from the day that you brought the omera of the elevation, seven weeks, complete shall they be. Until the (day) after the seventh week number fifty days, and (then) offer a new mincha before the Lord." {Aramaic Targum Onkelos}
The Targum Pseudo-Jonathan makes it clear that it was the first feast day and not the last one as ridiculouly questioned by a desenting/minority rabbi:
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How do they know that it refers to the first day of the Festival? It may refer to the last day of the Festival!"
{b. Men. 66a}
Again, as with the LXX, the Targums were written by IsraAili priest in ancient times. Which leads us to another 1st century Israili priest witness Josephus Flavius -
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In the month of Xanthicus, which is by us called Nisan, and is the beginning of our year, on the fourteenth day of the lunar month, when the sun is in Aries, (for in this month it was that we were delivered from bondage under the Egyptians,) the law ordained that we should every year slay that sacrifice which I before told you we slew when we came out of Egypt, and which was called the Passover; and so we do celebrate this passover in companies, leaving nothing of what we sacrifice till the day following. The feast of unleavened bread succeeds that of the passover, and falls on the fifteenth day of the month, and continues seven days, wherein they feed on unleavened bread; on every one of which days two bulls are killed, and one ram, and seven lambs. Now these lambs are entirely burnt, besides the kid of the goats which is added to all the rest, for sins; for it is intended as a feast for the priest on every one of those days.
But on the second day of unleavened bread, which is the sixteenth day of the month, they first partake of the fruits of the earth, for before that day they do not touch them. And while they suppose it proper to honor God, from whom they obtain this plentiful provision, in the first place, they offer the first-fruits of their barley, and that in the manner following: They take a handful of the ears, and dry them, then beat them small, and purge the barley from the bran; they then bring one tenth deal to the altar, to God; and, casting one handful of it upon the fire, they leave the rest for the use of the priest. And after this it is that they may publicly or privately reap their harvest. They also at this participation of the first-fruits of the earth, sacrifice a lamb, as a burnt-offering to God. When a week of weeks has passed over after this sacrifice, (which weeks contain forty and nine days,) on the fiftieth day, which is Pentecost, but is called by the Hebrews Asartha, which signifies Pentecost, they bring to God a loaf, made of wheat flour, of two tenth deals, with leaven; and for sacrifices they bring two lambs; and when they have only presented them to God, they are made ready for supper for the priests; nor is it permitted to leave any thing of them till the day following."
(p. 96, 3.10.5-6, Antiquities of the Jews, by Josephus Flavius)
No doubt as to the exact day here!!! And Josephus Flavius was aslo a IsraAili priest before the Second diaspora.
Conclusion
The entire nation of YisraAil, following the teaching of the Pharisees (as attested to by the afore mentioned Ancient Texts [Two Aramaic Targums, the Greek LXX, and also Antiquities of the Jews] all written by more than 70+ YisraAil priests) were observing the Wave Sheaf along side of
Yehoshua The sinless Anointed One and His disciples. We know this as attested to in Acts cpater 2 where the Disciples gathered for Penticost and all the rest of IsraAil from around the world was there observing this selfsame day at the exact same time, not a day or more off!!!
The Talmud, which is another witness written by the IsraAili priest, also shows that the majority of the priest in the time before during and after The Anointed One believed that the Wave Sheaf was to be done on the 16th of Abib. Again this is not Some apostate group's idea but main stream Yehudaism from days of old.
The New Unger's Bible Dictionary states:
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Although the spiritual power of the Pharisees had increased greatly, the Sadducean aristocracy was able to keep at the helm in politics. The price at which the Sadducees had to secure themselves power at this later period was indeed a high one, for they were in their official actions to accommodate themselves to Pharisaic views" {p. 1112, "Sadducee}.
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The Pharisees held, that the time between [Passover] and Pentecost should be counted from the second day of the feast; the Sadducees insisted that it should commence with the literal "Sabbath" after the festive day. But despite argument, the Sadducees had to join when the solemn procession went on the afternoon of the feast to cut down the "first sheaf," and to reckon Pentecost as did their opponents." {p. 220, ch. 15, Sketches of Jewish Social Life}
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They [delegates from the Sanhedrin] cut down barley to the amount of one ephah, or ten omers, or three seahs, which is equal to about three pecks and three pints of our English measure. The ears were brought into the Court of the Temple, and thrashed out with canes or stalks, so as not to injure the corn; then 'parched' on a pan perforated with holes, so that each grain might be touched by the fire, and finally exposed to the wind. The corn thus prepared was ground in a barley mill, which left the hulls whole. According to some, the flour was always successfully passed through thirteen sieves, each closer than the other. The statement of a rival authority, however, seems more rational - that it was only done till the flour was sufficiently fine (Men. vi. 6, 7), which was ascertained by one of the 'Gizbarim' (treasurers) plunging his hands into it, the sifting process being continued so long as any of the flour adhered to the hands (Men. viii. 2). Though one ephah, or ten omers, or barley was cut down, only one omer of flour, or about 5.1 pints of our measure, was offered in the Temple on the second Paschal, or 16th day of Nisan. The rest of the flour might be redeemed, and used for any purpose. The omer of flour was mixed with a 'log,' or very nearly three-fourths of a pint of oil, and a handful of frankincense put upon it, then waved before the Lord, and a handful taken out and burned on the altar."
{pp. 204-205, The Temple: Its Ministry and Services, updated edition}
But if one would rather ignore all the ancient IsraAili witnesses and side with Samaritans, Sadusees, and the majority of Christianity well then so be it, but do not expect me to follow after such an apostate tradition.
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After the time of the Old Testament there are different ideas among the Jews as to the day constituting the terminus a quo of the seven weeks (Van Goudoever, pp. 18, 29). It concerns here the exegesis of Leviticus 23:11, 15, which speaks of "the day after the sabbath." The Sadducees (and also the Samaritans) took the text as literally as possible. They understood the sabbath mentioned there as being the seventh day of the week . . . In that case the Feast of Weeks was always on the first day (Sunday). The Council of Nicea more or less went along with this and put Pentecost (even as Easter) on a Sunday. The Pharisees counted differently. Their calculation became officially accepted in Jewish orthodoxy from the second century A.D. According to them the "sabbath" in these texts refers to the first feast day of the Passover. On the following day the sheaf was to be brought and the fiftieth day was to be calculated from that." {p. 389, The World of the Bible}
Don't let this last refference fool you into thinking that the Pharisitical point of veiw was not officially upheld before 2nd century A.D. as it is well attested that the Pharisees where in control long before that time and had always waved the Sheaves Offering on the Day after the First Day of the Feast (i.e. - the 16th of Abib <!-- s:bomb: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/bomb.gif" alt=":bomb:" title="The Bomb" /><!-- s:bomb: --> ).
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