01-09-2011, 07:22 AM
in Heb. 4:8, Lamsa has
Hebrews 4:8 - For if Joshua the son of Nun had given them rest, he would not afterward have spoken of another day.
whereas the KJV has
Hebrews 4:8 - For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
i do not want to debate the Joshua/Jesus issue here. i am focused on the "son of Nun" part. i have checked for greek variants, but i found none. Interestingly, we have two very early Greek fragments of this passage, P13 and P46, and there are no variants here either. It seems there is no greek variant here. Can anyone with access to other manuscripts check for variants? Dropping the "son of Nun" seems quite strange to do for a translator. Yes, translation usually looses information, but not purposefully. This information would even be of special interest as it is quite helpful to have it there to distinguish between Jesus and Joshua.
Strangely, though hebrews originally was my top candidate for originally not being Greek, it gives me lots of signs it was not Syriac either (Also i more and more think Luke was in fact written in greek).
Hebrews 4:8 - For if Joshua the son of Nun had given them rest, he would not afterward have spoken of another day.
whereas the KJV has
Hebrews 4:8 - For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
i do not want to debate the Joshua/Jesus issue here. i am focused on the "son of Nun" part. i have checked for greek variants, but i found none. Interestingly, we have two very early Greek fragments of this passage, P13 and P46, and there are no variants here either. It seems there is no greek variant here. Can anyone with access to other manuscripts check for variants? Dropping the "son of Nun" seems quite strange to do for a translator. Yes, translation usually looses information, but not purposefully. This information would even be of special interest as it is quite helpful to have it there to distinguish between Jesus and Joshua.
Strangely, though hebrews originally was my top candidate for originally not being Greek, it gives me lots of signs it was not Syriac either (Also i more and more think Luke was in fact written in greek).
Jesus is the one true God of the Bible.