11-21-2010, 01:22 PM
Unlike most here, I didn't get into the study of foreign languages to prove ones superiority over the next. I merely wanted to see what the original texts looked like and after seeing some errors in the English versions it only aroused more curiousity...
Now after saying that, I note that no one thus far has quoted MOSHIACH in their posts wherein He is referring to Himself and ABBA YHWH. If we are to say that they are one and the same should not His very words be looked upon as proof of such??? And should not the very absence of Him saying such show us prove of the opposite??? When it comes to this particular subject I have most often found mostly quotes from Shaul and Yahuchanan 1:1 for the basis of most arguments; however there is a plethora of scriptures out there, so why aren't they also being used?
I asked a question in another forum about the following passages: Yahuchanan 5:19-23, 5:30-32, 5:36-38, 5:43-44. Before I asked about these verses Andrej had stated that perhaps I had a "wrong concept of sonship". Whenever someone makes a statement about anything in the absence of facts (in this case Andrej knows absolutely nothing about me or my belief system) it is just subjective opinion and I look upon it as such.
Usually because they cannot truly answer the question presented or they do not like their ideology questioned, (in this case I fear it was a case of both) people will attempt the old ad hominem fallacy of attacking the person (that also appears to be the case in relation to the website also). If you were/are or wanted to persuade this person that they were in error, how would you go about it: by making snide and snobbish remarks about him (where is the unconditional love in that?) or presenting the emet YHWH without bias? Surely the latter would attract more bees than would the vinegar of the words I have seen in this forum.
I am open to facts that show that YHWH and YAHUshuah are one and the same however speculation doesn't do much unless you're prospecting for gold. Also about this "maryah"... I took the time to try and find it in the Peshitta texts and I still haven't found that spelling. Is there a reason for that or is the adding of the "hey" at the end just as the author of the website said, " a parlor trick"? (And please spare me the "transliteration" spiel, as I hardly see where adding an "h" to the end of the word is transliterating it), it's deceptive to promote a certian ideology at best.
JustAlex
Now after saying that, I note that no one thus far has quoted MOSHIACH in their posts wherein He is referring to Himself and ABBA YHWH. If we are to say that they are one and the same should not His very words be looked upon as proof of such??? And should not the very absence of Him saying such show us prove of the opposite??? When it comes to this particular subject I have most often found mostly quotes from Shaul and Yahuchanan 1:1 for the basis of most arguments; however there is a plethora of scriptures out there, so why aren't they also being used?
I asked a question in another forum about the following passages: Yahuchanan 5:19-23, 5:30-32, 5:36-38, 5:43-44. Before I asked about these verses Andrej had stated that perhaps I had a "wrong concept of sonship". Whenever someone makes a statement about anything in the absence of facts (in this case Andrej knows absolutely nothing about me or my belief system) it is just subjective opinion and I look upon it as such.
Usually because they cannot truly answer the question presented or they do not like their ideology questioned, (in this case I fear it was a case of both) people will attempt the old ad hominem fallacy of attacking the person (that also appears to be the case in relation to the website also). If you were/are or wanted to persuade this person that they were in error, how would you go about it: by making snide and snobbish remarks about him (where is the unconditional love in that?) or presenting the emet YHWH without bias? Surely the latter would attract more bees than would the vinegar of the words I have seen in this forum.
I am open to facts that show that YHWH and YAHUshuah are one and the same however speculation doesn't do much unless you're prospecting for gold. Also about this "maryah"... I took the time to try and find it in the Peshitta texts and I still haven't found that spelling. Is there a reason for that or is the adding of the "hey" at the end just as the author of the website said, " a parlor trick"? (And please spare me the "transliteration" spiel, as I hardly see where adding an "h" to the end of the word is transliterating it), it's deceptive to promote a certian ideology at best.
JustAlex