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Setting the record straight
#64
Shlama,

oy....when this first came up i entered some of my own personal translations into the essayrater system, and came back with unoriginal source flags. now it comes up again, and this time i happen to have an account with them, so i try it once more... i entered only a handful of verses of some of my personal translations -- like 10 -15, and it cited plagarism on my part at around 30%. 30% for only that amount - although admittedly i have a streak for more literal renderings, so i usually don't end up with translations that sound like the smooth English we find most versions. i can just imagine what it would have said if i had been more conformative and included whole books...

anyhow, it told me i plagarized from Murdock,from the same site that Andrew's version is being flagged on, and i can attest with clear conscience that i don't use Murdock's translation when i happen to be translating -- i don't even own a copy of his work!

so i'm thinking that when it comes to something like the Scriptures, such a tool as the essayrater is not as trustworthy a witness as one might first think. there is just too much similarity available in translating a text to use it that way. i think it best to lay the whole thing to rest and be careful that we don't wrongfully accuse another based on a computer program's circumstantial evidence.

for all who'd like to see it for themselves but don't have an account, below is what shows up when you do the check (this is what i received when i put my handful of verses into the rater, so you can know i wasn't lying):


Citation audit
A part of your paper is matching some text from the Web. Please make sure that this text is properly referenced.

Web source:
<!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.aramaicpeshitta.com/AramaicNTtools/Murdock/murdock_luke.htm">http://www.aramaicpeshitta.com/AramaicN ... k_luke.htm</a><!-- m -->

Consider using one of the following pre-formatted references or write your own reference in using the appropriate format:

MLA: "Murdock Translation - Luke." Insert Name of Site. 14 September 2009 <http://www.aramaicpeshitta.com/AramaicNTtools/Murdock/murdock_luke.htm>.

APA: Murdock Translation - Luke. (2009, May 11). Retrieved September 14, 2009, from <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.aramaicpeshitta.com/AramaicNTtools/Murdock/murdock_luke.htm">http://www.aramaicpeshitta.com/AramaicN ... k_luke.htm</a><!-- m -->

Chicago: Murdock Translation - Luke, <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://www.aramaicpeshitta.com/AramaicNTtools/Murdock/murdock_luke.htm">http://www.aramaicpeshitta.com/AramaicN ... k_luke.htm</a><!-- m --> (accessed September 14, 2009).


Messages In This Thread
Re: Setting the record straight - by Christina - 04-30-2009, 07:30 AM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Paul Younan - 04-30-2009, 05:08 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Christina - 04-30-2009, 06:57 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Thirdwoe - 05-01-2009, 05:18 AM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Paul Younan - 05-01-2009, 04:03 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by gbausc - 05-01-2009, 04:34 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Paul Younan - 05-01-2009, 07:12 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Christina - 05-02-2009, 01:28 AM
Re: Setting the record straight - by gbausc - 05-02-2009, 10:47 AM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Dawid - 05-02-2009, 03:37 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Christina - 05-02-2009, 04:07 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Christina - 05-02-2009, 04:32 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Dawid - 05-02-2009, 05:02 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Christina - 05-02-2009, 06:34 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Thirdwoe - 05-02-2009, 07:39 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Christina - 05-02-2009, 09:45 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Christina - 05-02-2009, 09:52 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Paul Younan - 05-03-2009, 02:45 AM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Paul Younan - 05-03-2009, 02:58 AM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Paul Younan - 05-03-2009, 03:03 AM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Paul Younan - 05-03-2009, 03:21 AM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Paul Younan - 05-03-2009, 03:48 AM
Re: Setting the record straight - by gbausc - 05-03-2009, 02:10 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Dawid - 05-03-2009, 03:46 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Dawid - 05-03-2009, 04:16 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Dawid - 05-03-2009, 04:21 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Christina - 05-03-2009, 04:23 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Dawid - 05-03-2009, 07:03 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Christina - 05-03-2009, 07:23 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Dawid - 05-03-2009, 07:42 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Christina - 05-03-2009, 08:18 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Dawid - 05-03-2009, 08:24 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Christina - 05-03-2009, 09:13 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Paul Younan - 05-04-2009, 04:19 AM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Paul Younan - 05-04-2009, 04:42 AM
Re: Setting the record straight - by judge - 05-04-2009, 11:53 AM
Re: Setting the record straight - by gbausc - 05-04-2009, 02:13 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Christina - 05-04-2009, 07:11 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Christina - 05-04-2009, 09:17 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Paul Younan - 05-04-2009, 09:50 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by judge - 05-05-2009, 06:46 AM
Re: Setting the record straight - by judge - 05-05-2009, 07:28 AM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Paul Younan - 05-05-2009, 02:30 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Burning one - 05-05-2009, 09:17 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by judge - 05-05-2009, 10:16 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Christina - 05-05-2009, 10:29 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Christina - 05-05-2009, 11:10 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by enarxe - 05-06-2009, 12:03 AM
Re: Setting the record straight - by judge - 05-06-2009, 02:57 AM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Burning one - 05-06-2009, 05:33 AM
Re: Setting the record straight - by gbausc - 09-13-2009, 09:44 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by gbausc - 09-14-2009, 03:12 AM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Burning one - 09-14-2009, 06:20 AM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Dawid - 09-14-2009, 11:20 AM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Christina - 09-14-2009, 03:33 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by gbausc - 09-14-2009, 05:15 PM
Re: Setting the record straight - by Christina - 09-14-2009, 07:02 PM

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