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History of the Nazarenes
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sittingShiva Wrote:Here above are your words that grabbed me so as to not let me go. My original intent was to reply no more as all too often, I have found it far too difficult to speak to those who trust so fully the teachings of Paul. However, I can not let go what it is you said in regard to Torah. TORAH is LIFE. How is that NOT hope? To any who have found their life written in the Word of this People, there is not a doubt where the Word resides; and that is within the People. THAT is the hope that keeps me going. The Psalmist says in Psalm 119 that he has hoped in the Word of the LORD and in Isaiah 9:8 it is clear that the Word is sent into Jacob and has lighted upon Israel. Then, our hope rests with the People, Israel. Never with the sacrifice of another human being. Exodus 23:7 is clear that the idea that Paul had is not one that is derived from the Word as it is directly forbidden. The priests, though they made atonement for the People, NEVER WERE sacrificed for that atonement.

Torah teaches us about service both to ourselves as holders of Life as well as to those around us who also have within them the Breath of Life that comes from God. Torah is not a lesson in sacrifice. In that sense, all it ever does is lay out guidelines for such given that men have insisted upon it being needed to ease their own guilt. Never was part of the guidelines of sacrifice to include that of a literal human sacrifice that steals from another man his breath to justify the life of another who insists to live in their own personal guilt. The cure for that is to turn to the Law of God. <!-- s:inlove: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/inlove.gif" alt=":inlove:" title="In Love" /><!-- s:inlove: --> Psalm 19:7-11, Proverbs 29:18. <!-- s:lookround: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/lookround.gif" alt=":lookround:" title="Look Round" /><!-- s:lookround: -->

Romans 3:20
How is the Torah not our hope? It's not our hope insofar as our flesh cannot fulfill the righteousness of Torah by doing works of Torah... we do not put hope in our deeds but rather in He who can give life! I'm not saying that the Torah is bad, I'm just saying its purpose is to reveal sin, and one does not put hope in the revelation of sin but rather one walks with Yah in a life of purity through his Spirit according to the blueprint of Torah: for me Torah is still extremely important to the faith (don't get me wrong here). I never mentioned anything about human sacrifice, but since you brought it up: what do you believe regarding the death of Yeshua?
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History of the Nazarenes - by Andrew Gabriel Roth - 12-30-2008, 03:27 AM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Thirdwoe - 12-31-2008, 10:40 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Thirdwoe - 01-01-2009, 09:42 AM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Thirdwoe - 01-01-2009, 08:53 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Dawid - 01-02-2009, 01:47 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Dawid - 01-03-2009, 04:58 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by distazo - 03-23-2009, 08:39 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Havah - 04-29-2009, 11:55 AM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Aaron S - 03-12-2010, 03:53 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Burning one - 03-12-2010, 04:54 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Dawid - 03-13-2010, 04:06 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Dawid - 03-13-2010, 04:42 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Burning one - 03-14-2010, 09:46 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Burning one - 03-19-2010, 09:27 AM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Burning one - 03-20-2010, 06:35 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Burning one - 03-24-2010, 09:25 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by sittingShiva - 03-25-2010, 04:14 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Aaron S - 03-25-2010, 05:53 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by sittingShiva - 03-25-2010, 07:17 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Aaron S - 03-26-2010, 07:51 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Aaron S - 03-27-2010, 10:10 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Dawid - 03-27-2010, 11:43 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by sittingShiva - 03-28-2010, 12:53 AM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Dawid - 03-28-2010, 02:43 AM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Aaron S - 03-28-2010, 03:11 AM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by sittingShiva - 03-28-2010, 09:08 AM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Aaron S - 03-28-2010, 10:46 AM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by sittingShiva - 03-31-2010, 12:51 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Aaron S - 03-31-2010, 03:13 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by sittingShiva - 04-02-2010, 05:11 AM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Aaron S - 04-02-2010, 03:09 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Dawid - 04-02-2010, 04:22 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Dawid - 04-02-2010, 06:11 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Aaron S - 04-02-2010, 07:57 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Dawid - 04-02-2010, 08:17 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by sittingShiva - 04-03-2010, 11:00 AM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Dawid - 04-07-2010, 05:49 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Aaron S - 04-07-2010, 08:01 PM
Re: History of the Nazarenes - by Dawid - 04-07-2010, 08:10 PM

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