12-12-2008, 12:27 PM
Shlama all.
I read abudar2000's reply on Learning Aramaic Pronunciation. One part of it said:
So I was curious what he meant about their place according to the rules.
You see I've been reading Rev. Thomas Arayathinal's Grammar which says that in Eastern Syriac-Aramaic ph is always pronounced p, with these few exceptions:
????????????????????(wild grapes)????????????(occasion)??????????????????(indigestion of stomach)????????????(pitch)??????????????????(torrent)??????????????(type)??????????(Japhet)????????????????(beans)????????????????(lantern)????????????(Naphta)????????????(soul)????????????????(Naphtaly)????????????????(a seat: throne)????????????????(a sword)????????????(winnowing fan)????????????????pesilta (cut stone) ??? with the prefix ??:???????????????????? baphsilta.
And when a verb starting with ??is prefixed with any of the letters:????????it also is ph. Such as????????????(he will open)
????????????(he will meet)
??????????????(it will become wide)
????????????(to open)
????????????(to meet)
????????????(to become wide)
Whew.. so with all that out.. what I want to know is are there any other rules abudar2000 or anyone else for that matter takes into account when deciding wheather or not to say ph or p.
David R.
I read abudar2000's reply on Learning Aramaic Pronunciation. One part of it said:
abudar2000 Wrote:...In Western Syriac-Aramaic the p is only pronounced as "ph" and never "p??? (unless you develop a belief like me that "p" and "ph" have their place according to the rules)....
So I was curious what he meant about their place according to the rules.
You see I've been reading Rev. Thomas Arayathinal's Grammar which says that in Eastern Syriac-Aramaic ph is always pronounced p, with these few exceptions:
????????????????????(wild grapes)????????????(occasion)??????????????????(indigestion of stomach)????????????(pitch)??????????????????(torrent)??????????????(type)??????????(Japhet)????????????????(beans)????????????????(lantern)????????????(Naphta)????????????(soul)????????????????(Naphtaly)????????????????(a seat: throne)????????????????(a sword)????????????(winnowing fan)????????????????pesilta (cut stone) ??? with the prefix ??:???????????????????? baphsilta.
And when a verb starting with ??is prefixed with any of the letters:????????it also is ph. Such as????????????(he will open)
????????????(he will meet)
??????????????(it will become wide)
????????????(to open)
????????????(to meet)
????????????(to become wide)
Whew.. so with all that out.. what I want to know is are there any other rules abudar2000 or anyone else for that matter takes into account when deciding wheather or not to say ph or p.
David R.