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God Did NOT Die
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If God did not die, He sure went through an awful lot of trouble to deceive us into believing that He did.

Paul, you say God could not be born. This is to say there was no incarnation at all. If there was no incarnation, then what do we have to believe in and why would we want to believe in a deceiver who says He is God and was born in Bethlehem and would die for the sins of the world?

atlm wh awh yhwtya ahlaw ??????And The Word (Miltha) was God??? John 1:1
awh arob atlmw ??????And The Word (Miltha) became flesh. John 1:14

These scriptures say plainly that God became human. They do not say He dwelt with a human, nor in a human. If the scriptures do not mean what they say, then why should we trust them?

Jesus is YHWH. You believe that. I believe that. He is also human. You and I agree on this as well. But He is One Person. We agree on this also. We cannot dissect Him and pull Him apart into two natures and two qnomas and still conceive of Him as He is, One Person Who is fully Divine and fully human, indivisible. To say He is fully Divine means that every part of Him is Divine. To say He is fully human means every part of Him is human. We may not understand how it can be so; frankly I don???t have a problem with it, but it is what scripture reveals and we are to accept His word by faith, even if we don???t understand it.
God is incarnate in His Son Yeshua Meshikha. This means God has a body of flesh, blood and bone. To deny this is to deny Him.

When we start trying to pull Jesus apart, we start to pull ourselves apart and rend the church asunder; it is unavoidable. No amount of argument will ever change that fact. When someone tells me that Jesus The Christ???s birth was not God???s birth, I become violently angry.
When someone says that His death was not God???s death, I want to weep.

atsw ayrmd hmxl Nm lkad lykh anya 27
hrgplw ayrmd hmdl wh byxm hl aws alw hok Nm
Whoever therefore eats from the bread
of THE LORD JEHOVAH and drinks from
his cup and is unworthy of it, is guilty for the
blood of THE LORD JEHOVAH and for
his body.
abywx aws al dk hnm atsw ryg lkad Nm
ayrmd hrgp srp ald atsw lka hspnl wh
29 (Peshitta)
For whoever eats and drinks from it
being unworthy, eats and drinks a guilty
verdict into his soul for not distinguishing the
body of THE LORD JEHOVAH.

The scripture above plainly states that YHWH had a body and blood to sacrifice for us, and that He did so.

hdbed whd aywxm wh atwm aqtyd tyad ryg akya 16 (Peshitta)
16.For where there is a testament, it shows
the death of him who made it; -Hebrews 9:16

Nwnh atmwy rtb Nm Nwhl ltad aqtyd yh adh16
yhwybtka Nwhtwbl lew Nwhyedmb yowmnl yhwylta ayrm rma
(Peshitta)
16."This is the covenant that I shall give
them after those days, says THE LORD
JEHOVAH: I shall put my law into their
minds, and I shall write it upon their hearts, Hebrews 10:16

The One who made the Testament (will) had to die to make it effective. That One is Mar Yah (The Lord Jehovah, according to Jeremiah 31 and the Apostle Paul here in Hebrews.

If God did not die, then we have no New Covenant, no salvation, no hope.

What can you be thinking, and the COE members who believe God did not die on the cross?

I have the utmost respect for you, Paul. You are a great guy and a brilliant scholar and teacher.

I also believe & hope you are too large a soul and mind to fit into the narrow and backward thinking constraints of the COE, but that???s just my opinion.

I know I am going to catch it for saying that, but I am just here to deliver the bomb and get it off my chest.

The above scriptures are all taken from The Peshitta and are the same in Western and Eastern versions, to my knowledge.

And I have no doubt that the Peshitta NT reveals that Jesus is God in flesh and that He Who is God really and truly died on the cross to take away the sins of the world for all time and eternity. The sacrifice had to be more than that of a man, no matter how good he was; it required an Life that was Immense- THE LIFE of the universe, nay, THE LIFE of God Himself and of every angel, of every saint, of all the living- The Life of Lives, The LIFE of Life. That is what died on the cross.

Not a piece of flesh and bone- God The LORD!

Amen & Amen!!

Thank you, Christine, for confessing Him as He is.

What the hell is the matter with the rest of you?!

Dave
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Messages In This Thread
God Did NOT Die - by *Albion* - 08-14-2008, 06:03 PM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by Paul Younan - 08-14-2008, 06:14 PM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by Amatsyah - 08-14-2008, 09:44 PM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by *Albion* - 08-15-2008, 12:30 AM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by Paul Younan - 08-15-2008, 12:32 AM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by Paul Younan - 08-15-2008, 12:47 AM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by Andrew Gabriel Roth - 08-15-2008, 01:08 AM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by Bob Wells - 08-24-2008, 12:53 AM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by *Albion* - 08-24-2008, 01:37 AM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by Stephen Silver - 08-24-2008, 07:19 AM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by Christina - 08-24-2008, 03:40 PM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by gbausc - 08-24-2008, 06:25 PM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by *Albion* - 08-24-2008, 07:08 PM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by Paul Younan - 08-25-2008, 01:30 AM
Re: YHWH Did NOT Die - by Andrew Gabriel Roth - 08-25-2008, 03:09 PM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by gbausc - 08-25-2008, 04:58 PM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by Paul Younan - 08-25-2008, 05:47 PM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by *Albion* - 08-25-2008, 06:19 PM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by glscottnz - 08-25-2008, 07:10 PM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by Christina - 08-25-2008, 08:00 PM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by Christina - 08-25-2008, 08:06 PM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by Paul Younan - 08-25-2008, 10:03 PM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by gbausc - 08-25-2008, 10:56 PM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by Christina - 08-26-2008, 12:17 AM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by Andrew Gabriel Roth - 08-26-2008, 01:33 AM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by Paul Younan - 08-26-2008, 02:46 AM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by Christina - 08-26-2008, 08:36 PM
Re: God Did NOT Die - by Thirdwoe - 08-30-2008, 10:49 PM

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