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Help with translation of 1 cor 15:29
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Dear Dave,

That is really kind of you for your encouraging words and useful information about the Aramaic Bible. I believe I have got the most important links.

I have brethren who do believe the originality of the Hebrew/Aramaic manuscripts of the NT. In fact, I have forwarded some articles in another forum I visit frequently to advise the Aramaic primacy of the NT. Though it is annoying to many traditional minds, it is indeed welcomed by some brethren of mine. At least it is not an offense to all when I do 'word' studies using the Peshitta Aramaic NT, likening to many using the Greek mss with concordance. For this purpose, the interlinear translation with a lexicon link will be very important and helpful.

Thank you again, Dave!

God bless you!

Jing

PS. As a further encouragent to me, would you please give an sample literal translation of Col. 1:12-20? In fact, I have a doctrinical issue relevant to those verses. With a doctrinical belief, the following is my rendering without any consideration of the actual translation.

Quote: 01 : 12 T'aOD'uON 8568 LaALoHoA 932 AaB,oA 6 D'aAWOa;N 20797 LaMNoT,oA 12226 D';oRT'uOT,oA 9559 D'XaD'i;WeA 18149 B'NuOHRoA 12771

LaALoHoA AaB,oA D'aAWOa;N LaMNoT,oA D';oRT'uOT,oA D'XaD'i;WeA B'NuOHRoA

8568thanks, profess, confess, promise
932God, god
6father
20797smooth, wipe, worthy, equal, agree, spread --- us
12226part, portion
9559inheritance
18149holy, saint
12771light

Thanks to God the Father [for He] spreaded us portion [of] inheritance [of] saints [in] light,

01 : 13 OI,aRXaN 17237 MeN 12182 WuOLYoNeH 21411 D'KeWuOC,oA 7831 OaA;T';aN 2130 LMaLC'uOT,oA 11994 D'aB,ReH 3266 KaB'i;B,oA 6079


17237rescue, deliver, go away, depart, save, abstain, pursue --- us
12182from
21411his --- authority, dominion, power
7831 dark, darkness
2130 come, bring --- us
11994 realm, kingdom, reign
3266 his --- son
6079 beloved

and rescued us from the power [of] darkness as to bring us [into] kingdom [of] His Son beloved,

01 : 14 HaO 5044 D'B,eH 2249 Ai;T, 723 LaN 10852 I'uORXoNoA 17210 OWuOB,XoNoA 20604 D'aKYoHeA 6807


5044that, those, who
2249in, against, with, at, among, into, by --- him
723is, are
10852to, for --- us
17210salvation, deliverance, redemption
20604forgiveness, repudiation, remission, release
6807sin

in whom it is for us [to have] salvation and remission [of] sin,

01 : 15 HaO 5044 D'HuO;uO 4994 D'MuOT,oA 4723 D'aALoHoA 914 D'LoA 10863 MeT,KZeA 6707 OB,uOC,RoA 2783 D'C,uLHe;N 10030 B'eR;oT,oA 3353


5044that, those, who
4994i.e., that is to say
4723similitude, pattern, type, image, form, exemplar
914God, god
10863no, not
6707behold, see
2783first-born
10030every, entirely, whole, all
3353creation

who is image [of] God unseen, first-born [of] whole creation [in God's Mind or Bosom];

01 : 16 OB,eH 2257 AeT,B'Ri; 3332 C'uLMeD'eM 10090 D'B,aWMa;oA 21647 OB,aAREoA 1996 C'uL 10077 D'MeT,KZeA 6621 OC,uL 10053 D'LoA 10863 MeT,KZeA 6707 AeN 1356 MaOT'B,eA 9632 OeAN 1364 MoRaOoT,oA 12419 OeAN 1364 AaRC,aOS 1921 OeAN 1364 WuOLYoNeA 21410 C'uLMeD'eM 10090 B'iA;D,eH 576 OB,eH 2257 AeT,B'Ri; 3332

2257in, against, with, at, among, into, by --- him
3332make, create
10090everything
21647heaven, sky
1996soil, earth, ground, land, country
10077every, entirely, whole, all
6621behold, see
10053every, entirely, whole, all
10863no, not
6707behold, see
1356if
9632seat
1364if
12419dominion
1364if
1921principality
1364if
21410authority, dominion, power
10090everything
576through, near, hand ----him,his
2257in, against, with, at, among, into, by -- him
3332make, create

in [preparation for] him did [God] create everything [in ] heaven and [on] earth, everything seen and everything unseen, whether on throne, in dominion, in principality, or in authority, everything through him in [preparation for] him being created;

01 : 17 OHuO;uO 5016 D'MeN 12161 XD,oM 18101 C'uL 10077 OC,uLMeD'eM 10062 B'eH 2239 XoAeM 18333

5016i.e., that is to say
12161from
18101before
10077every, entirely, whole, all
10062behold, see
2239in, against, with, at, among, into, by --- him
18333rise, stand, establish

he was from the beginning [in God???s Mind], and everything seen in [preparation for] him was created;

01 : 18 OHuO;uO 5016 RiWoA 19959 D'I,aG,RoA 16403 D'EiD'_T'oA 15265 D'iA;T,aOH_; 733 RiWoA 19959 OB,uOC,RoA 2783 D'MeN 12161 B'e;T, 2701 Mi;T,eA 11516 D'NeHOeA 5078 XaD,Mo; 18122 B'C,uL 10007

5016i.e., that is to say
19959head, beginning, chiefs
16403body
15265church, assembly, congregation
733he --- is, are
19959head, beginning, chiefs
2783first-born
12161from
2701house, abode
11516dead
5078turn, be, was
18122first, fore
10007every, entirely, whole, all

he is head of body the Church, head of first-born from the abode [of the] dead, and first [of] all;

01 : 19 D'B,eH 2249 HuO 5005 /B,oA 17504 C'uLeH 10079 MuOLo;oA 11734 LMeEMaR 15959

2249in, against, with, at, among, into, by --- him
5005he, it, is
17504desire, will
10079every, entirely, whole, all --- him, his
11734consummation, fulfilment, fullness
15959dwell

in him it is the will [of God for His] whole fullness to dwell;

01 : 20 OB,iA;D,eH 601 LaMRaEo;uO 20147 LeH 10842 C'uLMeD'eM 10090 OWa;eN 21159 B'aD,MoA 4670 D'aZXi;I,eH 5900 B'iA;D,aOH_; 579 AeN 1356 D'B,aAREoA 1993 OeAN 1364 D'B,aWMa;oA 21647

601 through, near, hand --- his him he
20147 reconcile
10842 to, for --- him
10090 everything
21159 reconcile, peace
4670 blood
5900 his --- cross, the Cross
579 through, near, hand --- his him he
1356 if
1993 soil, earth, ground, land, country
1364 if
21647 heaven, sky

in him [God] reconciled to [Himself] everything, and made peace, [by] blood [of] his cross, [with all] whether on earth or in heaven.
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Help with translation of 1 cor 15:29 - by Jing - 01-13-2005, 10:07 PM
1 Cor. 15:29 - by gbausc - 01-18-2005, 10:05 AM
[No subject] - by Jing - 01-18-2005, 02:34 PM
Baptized for the dead ? - by gbausc - 01-18-2005, 07:07 PM
[No subject] - by Jing - 01-19-2005, 09:26 AM
[No subject] - by gbausc - 01-19-2005, 01:34 PM
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