11-07-2004, 02:48 AM
Allow me to also share Adam Clarke's commentary upon Rev. 1:4 because I think it's very relevant to the Rev. 1:8 comments concerning 'Aleph and Tau' versus 'Alpha and Omega.' I'll throw in the comments upon 'the Seven Spirits which are before His throne' just for good measure (if for no other reason than the fact that this is also Jewish to the core). <!-- s:biggrin: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/biggrin.gif" alt=":biggrin:" title="Big Grin" /><!-- s:biggrin: -->
{QUOTE FROM ADAM CLARKE'S COMMENTARY}
From him which is, and which was, and which is to come - This phraseology is purely Jewish, and probably taken from the Tetragrammaton, יהוה Yehovah; which is supposed to include in itself all time, past, present, and future. But they often use the phrase of which the ?? wn kai ?? jn kai ?? ercomenov of the apostle, is a literal translation. So, in Sohar Chadash, fol. 7, 1: “Rabbi Jose said, By the name Tetragrammaton, (i.e. יהוה, Yehovah), the higher and lower regions, the heavens, the earth, and all they contain, were perfected; and they are all before him reputed as nothing; והוא היה והוא הוה והוא יהיה vehu hayah, vehu hoveh, vehu yihyeh; and He Was, and He Is, and He Will Be. So, in Shemoth Rabba, sec. 3, fol. 105, 2: “The holy blessed God said to Moses, tell them: - אני שהייתי ואני הוא עכשיו ואני הוא לעתיד לבוא ani shehayithi, veani hu achshaiu, veani hu laathid labo; I Was, I Now Am, and I Will Be in Future.” In Chasad Shimuel, Rab. Samuel ben David asks: “Why are we commanded to use three hours of prayer? Answer: These hours point out the holy blessed God; שהוא היה הוה ויהיה shehu hayah, hoveh, veyihyeh; he who Was, who Is, and who Shall Be. The Morning prayer points out him who Was before the foundation of the world; the Noonday prayer points out him who Is; and the Evening prayer points out him who Is to Come.” This phraseology is exceedingly appropriate, and strongly expresses the eternity of God; for we have no other idea of time than as past, or now existing, or yet to exist; nor have we any idea of eternity but as that duration called by some aeternitas a parte ante, the eternity that was before time, and aeternitas a parte post, the endless duration that shall be when time is no more. That which Was, is the eternity before time; that which Is, is time itself; and that which Is to Come, is the eternity which shall be when time is no more.
The seven Spirits - before his throne - The ancient Jews, who represented the throne of God as the throne of an eastern monarch, supposed that there were seven ministering angels before this throne, as there were seven ministers attendant on the throne of a Persian monarch. We have an ample proof of this, Tobit 12:15: I am Raphael, one of the Seven Holy Angels which present the prayers of the saints, and which go in and out before the glory of the Holy One. And in Jonathan ben Uzziel’s Targum, on Gen_11:7 : God said to the Seven Angels which stand before him, Come now, etc.
In Pirkey Eliezer, iv. and vii: “The angels which were first created minister before him without the veil.” Sometimes they represent them as seven cohorts or troops of angels, under whom are thirty inferior orders.That seven Angels are here meant, and not the Holy Spirit, is most evident from the place, the number, and the tradition. Those who imagine the Holy Ghost to be intended suppose the number seven is used to denote his manifold gifts and graces. That these seven spirits are angels, see Rev_3:1; Rev_4:5; and particularly Rev_5:6, where they are called the seven spirits of God Sent Forth into All the Earth.
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Here's a shocker for you concerning the sources that Revelation draws from. When I saw quite a number of verses in Revelation that borrowed from the New and Old Testaments, I was not overly shocked but pretty impressed. But what really caught me off-guard was the amount of verses or phrases from the Apocryphal and Pseudepigraphical writings that read exactly word-for-word, nearly word-for-word, or show very clear signs of borrowing with regard to concepts, beliefs held, prophecies, etc., etc. Anybody that says they love the book of Revelation but thinks that every word of the Apocrypha and Pseudepigrapha is spurious and of no account would be quite taken aback if they ever found out that Revelation draws from four sources
and not just two, i.e., the O. T. and N. T. They would have to 'eat crow' and from my experience 'crow' doesn't taste too good. <!-- s:biggrin: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/biggrin.gif" alt=":biggrin:" title="Big Grin" /><!-- s:biggrin: -->
Shlama w'Burkate, Larry Kelsey
{QUOTE FROM ADAM CLARKE'S COMMENTARY}
From him which is, and which was, and which is to come - This phraseology is purely Jewish, and probably taken from the Tetragrammaton, יהוה Yehovah; which is supposed to include in itself all time, past, present, and future. But they often use the phrase of which the ?? wn kai ?? jn kai ?? ercomenov of the apostle, is a literal translation. So, in Sohar Chadash, fol. 7, 1: “Rabbi Jose said, By the name Tetragrammaton, (i.e. יהוה, Yehovah), the higher and lower regions, the heavens, the earth, and all they contain, were perfected; and they are all before him reputed as nothing; והוא היה והוא הוה והוא יהיה vehu hayah, vehu hoveh, vehu yihyeh; and He Was, and He Is, and He Will Be. So, in Shemoth Rabba, sec. 3, fol. 105, 2: “The holy blessed God said to Moses, tell them: - אני שהייתי ואני הוא עכשיו ואני הוא לעתיד לבוא ani shehayithi, veani hu achshaiu, veani hu laathid labo; I Was, I Now Am, and I Will Be in Future.” In Chasad Shimuel, Rab. Samuel ben David asks: “Why are we commanded to use three hours of prayer? Answer: These hours point out the holy blessed God; שהוא היה הוה ויהיה shehu hayah, hoveh, veyihyeh; he who Was, who Is, and who Shall Be. The Morning prayer points out him who Was before the foundation of the world; the Noonday prayer points out him who Is; and the Evening prayer points out him who Is to Come.” This phraseology is exceedingly appropriate, and strongly expresses the eternity of God; for we have no other idea of time than as past, or now existing, or yet to exist; nor have we any idea of eternity but as that duration called by some aeternitas a parte ante, the eternity that was before time, and aeternitas a parte post, the endless duration that shall be when time is no more. That which Was, is the eternity before time; that which Is, is time itself; and that which Is to Come, is the eternity which shall be when time is no more.
The seven Spirits - before his throne - The ancient Jews, who represented the throne of God as the throne of an eastern monarch, supposed that there were seven ministering angels before this throne, as there were seven ministers attendant on the throne of a Persian monarch. We have an ample proof of this, Tobit 12:15: I am Raphael, one of the Seven Holy Angels which present the prayers of the saints, and which go in and out before the glory of the Holy One. And in Jonathan ben Uzziel’s Targum, on Gen_11:7 : God said to the Seven Angels which stand before him, Come now, etc.
In Pirkey Eliezer, iv. and vii: “The angels which were first created minister before him without the veil.” Sometimes they represent them as seven cohorts or troops of angels, under whom are thirty inferior orders.That seven Angels are here meant, and not the Holy Spirit, is most evident from the place, the number, and the tradition. Those who imagine the Holy Ghost to be intended suppose the number seven is used to denote his manifold gifts and graces. That these seven spirits are angels, see Rev_3:1; Rev_4:5; and particularly Rev_5:6, where they are called the seven spirits of God Sent Forth into All the Earth.
{END OF QUOTE}
Here's a shocker for you concerning the sources that Revelation draws from. When I saw quite a number of verses in Revelation that borrowed from the New and Old Testaments, I was not overly shocked but pretty impressed. But what really caught me off-guard was the amount of verses or phrases from the Apocryphal and Pseudepigraphical writings that read exactly word-for-word, nearly word-for-word, or show very clear signs of borrowing with regard to concepts, beliefs held, prophecies, etc., etc. Anybody that says they love the book of Revelation but thinks that every word of the Apocrypha and Pseudepigrapha is spurious and of no account would be quite taken aback if they ever found out that Revelation draws from four sources
and not just two, i.e., the O. T. and N. T. They would have to 'eat crow' and from my experience 'crow' doesn't taste too good. <!-- s:biggrin: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/biggrin.gif" alt=":biggrin:" title="Big Grin" /><!-- s:biggrin: -->
Shlama w'Burkate, Larry Kelsey