10-01-2004, 07:38 PM
hey dave
my apologies if I was at all offensive... I have no problems with discussing the bible with you... I just get my defenses up, I guess, when someone tries to demand to me what I should believe... I don't think what you believe is inferior.. I don't know why you keep accusing me of things... read all my posts... all I ever say is what I believe and I only confront when someone tries to dictate to me what I have to believe as they believe... it is your religion that damns people and sees them as eternally inferior and tortured for not believing the same as you.. i think you are entitled to believe as you wish and I never said it was inferior... I just said I know science so I know some of it is false.. but you are entitled to be as brainwashed as you want but if you are on a forum trying to pass religion as science and demonize good science, then of course I will counter your argument and ask you to stop bible thumping me.. and by bible thumping I mean saying because your religion's book says something and the powers to be in that religion have interpretted it a certain way, you have some moral authority over me and worse some knowledge of truth that can counter what science and even sometimes common sense tell me... feel free to debate or discuss all the bible material you want.. but everytime someone tells me what I have to believe based on THEIR CHOICE of religion, expect me to call you a bible thumper but I will try not to be so harsh... for I would love to discuss more with you... and I apologize, that have have some post traumatic stress from bible thumpers always thinking they have exclusivity on God and knowledge from all other people and all other religions and always make demands on what I have to believe... you are free to believe as you want as am I and we are both free to discuss... so I apologize if I was too harsh... as I said I have PTSD when it comes to being bible thumped and having labels of heretic and blasphemous when who are you or any PERSON to dictate to me the mind of God... to me religion is a philosophy and a personal thing... and I find my resonance and affinity to the moral and ethical teachings of Jesus, and I am in good company from Jefferson to Ghandi as good souls who only saw value in the ethics and morality and rejected the rest of the supernatural mumbo jumbo, as do I <!-- s
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Peace and I hope you feel free to discuss and debate with me, and even if you want to bible thump, but I probably will react as I always do to bible thumping by telling what I honestly think about it... so if you can give it, then you should take it.. as I will try to to. <!-- s --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smile.gif" alt="" title="Smile" /><!-- s -->
Shushan
my apologies if I was at all offensive... I have no problems with discussing the bible with you... I just get my defenses up, I guess, when someone tries to demand to me what I should believe... I don't think what you believe is inferior.. I don't know why you keep accusing me of things... read all my posts... all I ever say is what I believe and I only confront when someone tries to dictate to me what I have to believe as they believe... it is your religion that damns people and sees them as eternally inferior and tortured for not believing the same as you.. i think you are entitled to believe as you wish and I never said it was inferior... I just said I know science so I know some of it is false.. but you are entitled to be as brainwashed as you want but if you are on a forum trying to pass religion as science and demonize good science, then of course I will counter your argument and ask you to stop bible thumping me.. and by bible thumping I mean saying because your religion's book says something and the powers to be in that religion have interpretted it a certain way, you have some moral authority over me and worse some knowledge of truth that can counter what science and even sometimes common sense tell me... feel free to debate or discuss all the bible material you want.. but everytime someone tells me what I have to believe based on THEIR CHOICE of religion, expect me to call you a bible thumper but I will try not to be so harsh... for I would love to discuss more with you... and I apologize, that have have some post traumatic stress from bible thumpers always thinking they have exclusivity on God and knowledge from all other people and all other religions and always make demands on what I have to believe... you are free to believe as you want as am I and we are both free to discuss... so I apologize if I was too harsh... as I said I have PTSD when it comes to being bible thumped and having labels of heretic and blasphemous when who are you or any PERSON to dictate to me the mind of God... to me religion is a philosophy and a personal thing... and I find my resonance and affinity to the moral and ethical teachings of Jesus, and I am in good company from Jefferson to Ghandi as good souls who only saw value in the ethics and morality and rejected the rest of the supernatural mumbo jumbo, as do I <!-- s
--><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/smile.gif" alt="" title="Smile" /><!-- s -->Peace and I hope you feel free to discuss and debate with me, and even if you want to bible thump, but I probably will react as I always do to bible thumping by telling what I honestly think about it... so if you can give it, then you should take it.. as I will try to to. <!-- s
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