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use of OS by ancient Aramaic-speaking Christians
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yuku Wrote:
judge Wrote:Thanks Yuri.

I think that your original words may be improved upon. I don't think it is really accurate to say....."I've presented the whole phrases from Aphrahat that agree with the Diatessaron and/or the Old Syriac word for word."

What we seem to have is whole phrases that do not agree word for word but are however closer in some points than the peshitta.

It is difficult to see how this could be evidence in a scientific sense.
This evidence does not compare to quotes from Aphrahat which actually do read word for word the same as the peshitta.

What do you think?

Shlama, Judge,

I don't quite understand what you're saying.

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Below, we can confirm that the central part of Aphrahat's citation indeed reads exactly
the same as the OS Mk.

(Aphrahat)
haleyn -- abadat anyn, haw, myn d'tlaya enay
(Mk 10:20 SyS)
haleyn -- abadat anyn, haw, myn d'tlaya enay

But Aphrahat reads very differently from the Peshitta Mark,

(Aphrahat)
haleyn -- abadat anyn, haw, myn d'tlaya enay
(Peshitta Mk 10:20)
haleyn kolahyn nitrat anyn, myn tlywty

Here are the English translations again,

(Aphrahat)
"These -- I have done them, lo, from when I was a child."
(Peshitta Mk 10:20)
"all these have I kept from my childhood."

The same phrase, word for word. And there are more in the same passage.

Shlama,

Yuri.

Yuri, on re-reading this in the original post, I think we must conclude that aphrahat was not quoting the Old Syriac.
It appears to if we look at the portion of Aphrahat you have quoted. However above you have chopped off the beginning and ending of Aphrahats quote. If we include the entire quote we see that Aphrahat full quote contains words that are not present in the Ols Syriac.

Is there any occaision at all where aphrahat quotes the Old Syriac precisely?
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