05-14-2004, 07:52 AM
Discrimination. I'm not sure how you Paul, managed to read discrimination out of Yuri's post, but that is not the content implied. In fact let me talk a little about this so-called topic of discrimination.
My first wife was black, my youngest brother married one of her sisters and had kids. My families are midwestern white. Now you guys put 2 and 2 together and picture what was the onslaught out of those families who had to deal with the changes my brother and I imposed upon them.
Over the years I have noticed people use discrimination as a weapon, really the guilt of it involved. I had it happen a few times and because I had dealt with it and seen my fair share of discrimination, those folks who were assuming they had another weakminded individual in front of them that they could control, got a big surprise. Things have erupted into fistfights at times, I wasn't the sympathetic individual they were expecting to take control of. All this was on a strict confrontational level, very personal, not something that some generations before me supposedly went through, now I'm trying to utilize that as my "angle" before people. Don't try the discriminational thing with me fellas, when it isn't there, Dave ain't buying, so sell it to someone else who has thin skin, and a weakmind.
I read through Yuri's post many times, and it has no element of it. And believe me, if it did, I would be all over him or whoever it was, on here. It is not subtle, nor is it implied. Period.
Shoot, let's talk about this so-called tradition and faith. What does tradition have in common with textual criticism? Does faith shape any amount of it? Your answers should be nothing and no, that is if your unbiased.
Ahhh that word,...bias. Now does tradition and faith have a hand in being biased? Heh, don't let the reverb through the halls of the resounding yes knock you down off your stool.
Anyways, I think I will follow something shown to me here. If any of you really think that you have it all figured out and that your "sacred text" is the end all be all of everything,....then by all means continue in your path and just ignore any sort of differing element. By all means fellas, have at it. Just give your lectures, write your books, do your thing on message boards or whatever it is that you are accountable for in the end.
The reason I say this, is because you have no effect on the scholarly world, especially you Mister Roth. You folks and the scholarly world are in 2 different rooms, and neither of you are talking. And you know what, maybe that is for the better. The scholarly world will not believe you guys for thinking that everything outside of the eastern arena is false, and you guys refuse to accept anything of "western" origin. Again, maybe that is for the better, because the scholarly world may get more done that way.
So I implore you, continue on your path and ignore the scholarly world.
Although Mister Trimm may have his areas that are questionable, is he not a servant of The Almighty? A couple times I got a check inside about my wrong thoughts over him, especially from this forum. GOD always uses the unwise and weak to put to shame those who fancy themselves as greater, no? Let's all nods our heads together with Dave.
We truley are unable to envision what GOD has for His people. Although Mister Trimms false ideals center around this eutopia of messianic purportions, it's his critical text of the manuscripts that he brings to the masses, those that have remained untranslated for years, that are the hidden gems others are not paying attention to. Whether he truley realizes it or not, he provides a unique aspect that others have refused to do, for whatever reasons. They just refuse to do that sort of work, and desire to promote themselves when they are suppose to deny themselves.
Rather than belch out the same old observances that others have or continue to do, he is looking for new things, and translating them for the masses so that they can make judgements for themselves rather than listen to opinions and assumptions from those who belittle. I gotta admire that.
Where are the rest who do such work for the masses, who bring texts out into the open for others to see? Or those who can correct any mistakes that the originator may have made? Shall there be others who collate texts and critique them? Does a word borrowed from a greek text mean anything whatsoever to one who plans to do comparison work amongst these texts, and others? Nope. Maybe amongst purists/text biased individuals, yes then it would.
Some people really have a small idea of what GOD is doing at times, but many truley have no idea of the extent He is willing to go for those who seek Him with all their heart.
Sacred text. I like that one Mister Roth, that was a pretty good one.
My first wife was black, my youngest brother married one of her sisters and had kids. My families are midwestern white. Now you guys put 2 and 2 together and picture what was the onslaught out of those families who had to deal with the changes my brother and I imposed upon them.
Over the years I have noticed people use discrimination as a weapon, really the guilt of it involved. I had it happen a few times and because I had dealt with it and seen my fair share of discrimination, those folks who were assuming they had another weakminded individual in front of them that they could control, got a big surprise. Things have erupted into fistfights at times, I wasn't the sympathetic individual they were expecting to take control of. All this was on a strict confrontational level, very personal, not something that some generations before me supposedly went through, now I'm trying to utilize that as my "angle" before people. Don't try the discriminational thing with me fellas, when it isn't there, Dave ain't buying, so sell it to someone else who has thin skin, and a weakmind.
I read through Yuri's post many times, and it has no element of it. And believe me, if it did, I would be all over him or whoever it was, on here. It is not subtle, nor is it implied. Period.
Shoot, let's talk about this so-called tradition and faith. What does tradition have in common with textual criticism? Does faith shape any amount of it? Your answers should be nothing and no, that is if your unbiased.
Ahhh that word,...bias. Now does tradition and faith have a hand in being biased? Heh, don't let the reverb through the halls of the resounding yes knock you down off your stool.
Anyways, I think I will follow something shown to me here. If any of you really think that you have it all figured out and that your "sacred text" is the end all be all of everything,....then by all means continue in your path and just ignore any sort of differing element. By all means fellas, have at it. Just give your lectures, write your books, do your thing on message boards or whatever it is that you are accountable for in the end.
The reason I say this, is because you have no effect on the scholarly world, especially you Mister Roth. You folks and the scholarly world are in 2 different rooms, and neither of you are talking. And you know what, maybe that is for the better. The scholarly world will not believe you guys for thinking that everything outside of the eastern arena is false, and you guys refuse to accept anything of "western" origin. Again, maybe that is for the better, because the scholarly world may get more done that way.
So I implore you, continue on your path and ignore the scholarly world.
Although Mister Trimm may have his areas that are questionable, is he not a servant of The Almighty? A couple times I got a check inside about my wrong thoughts over him, especially from this forum. GOD always uses the unwise and weak to put to shame those who fancy themselves as greater, no? Let's all nods our heads together with Dave.
We truley are unable to envision what GOD has for His people. Although Mister Trimms false ideals center around this eutopia of messianic purportions, it's his critical text of the manuscripts that he brings to the masses, those that have remained untranslated for years, that are the hidden gems others are not paying attention to. Whether he truley realizes it or not, he provides a unique aspect that others have refused to do, for whatever reasons. They just refuse to do that sort of work, and desire to promote themselves when they are suppose to deny themselves.
Rather than belch out the same old observances that others have or continue to do, he is looking for new things, and translating them for the masses so that they can make judgements for themselves rather than listen to opinions and assumptions from those who belittle. I gotta admire that.
Where are the rest who do such work for the masses, who bring texts out into the open for others to see? Or those who can correct any mistakes that the originator may have made? Shall there be others who collate texts and critique them? Does a word borrowed from a greek text mean anything whatsoever to one who plans to do comparison work amongst these texts, and others? Nope. Maybe amongst purists/text biased individuals, yes then it would.
Some people really have a small idea of what GOD is doing at times, but many truley have no idea of the extent He is willing to go for those who seek Him with all their heart.
Sacred text. I like that one Mister Roth, that was a pretty good one.