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OT - Daniel 9
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The passages in Matthew, Mark and Luke are dealing with similar subject matter some accounts give details that others leave out.  For example, Luke 21:7 specifically asks the question about the destruction of the temple, when would it happen and what would be the signs.  When Jerusalem would be surrounded by armies, its destruction would be near.  Notice there is no mention about anything happening with, in or over the temple with abominations.  And then it jumps right to the very end when the Son of Man arrives in a cloud.  There is no reference to Daniel that I can see.

Mark 13 starts off with a very similar question about the time of the destruction of the temple.  In v 8 you have the reference to "birth pains" - the same word as in Daniel 9.  In v 14, the direct reference to Daniel 9 and the "abomination of desolation" seems to be a continuation of his answer about the destruction of the temple.  But there's a gap between v 13 and v14.  This is plain to see later in v24 when He says "But in those days, after that tribulation" which refers back to the events in the section between v 14-23.  In "that" tribulation it won't be like anything that has ever happened before or since.  There is a series of false christs doing signs and wonders.  These things did not happen in 70 AD.  So from v14-27, it is talking about Daniel's last Week, something still to happen in the future.

Matthew 24 gives even more detail than in the other two accounts.  But the initial question is different.  v3 says "when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?"  When will the temple be destroyed, when will the Anointed come and when will be the end of the age?  I can just imagine Jesus sitting there with a playful grin saying ok, I'll tell you what you want to know.  The disciples assumed all these things would happen at the same time.  But obviously that has not been the case.  He first ties Daniel 9 directly to the return of the Anointed.  Then He answers what He knows about the end of the age in v35-36.
"35Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.  36But concerning that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father only."
Most people don't read those verses together because Bibles usually put a section header between the verses - something that was not in the original manuscript.

So Jesus answered their questions - but not in the way they were assuming the timeline would happen.  This is a pretty common thing in prophetic fulfillment.  Remember the time when Jesus was in the synagogue and read the portion from the Isaiah scroll.  He read the first part of the verse, stopped and handed back the scroll.  He only fulfilled part of the prophecy.  There is a gap until the entire thing will be fulfilled.

The same is true in the Daniel prophecies.  Things are partially fulfilled in Daniel 11.  Antiochus only went so far.  The verses at the end were never fulfilled and are still to happen.

Btw, I found that the Peshitta is missing half of Dan 11:29.  Both the Masoretic and LXX contain more of the verse.  This is quite disappointing.  I haven't been able to find anyone who has investigated why this would be. Also Dan 11:28 Peshitta is also much different and missing a phrase. The Masoretic says the King returns with much wealth but the Peshitta says he returns with his large army.
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OT - Daniel 9 - by cgjedi - 11-27-2015, 06:02 PM
RE: OT - Daniel 9 - by Thirdwoe - 11-28-2015, 10:15 PM
RE: OT - Daniel 9 - by cgjedi - 11-29-2015, 12:10 AM
RE: OT - Daniel 9 - by cgjedi - 12-08-2015, 08:04 PM
RE: OT - Daniel 9 - by Thirdwoe - 12-09-2015, 02:58 AM
RE: OT - Daniel 9 - by cgjedi - 12-09-2015, 05:42 AM
RE: OT - Daniel 9 - by Thirdwoe - 12-09-2015, 06:46 AM
RE: OT - Daniel 9 - by cgjedi - 12-09-2015, 02:13 PM
RE: OT - Daniel 9 - by Thirdwoe - 12-09-2015, 06:12 PM
RE: OT - Daniel 9 - by sestir - 12-09-2015, 10:59 PM
RE: OT - Daniel 9 - by cgjedi - 12-10-2015, 02:08 AM
RE: OT - Daniel 9 - by Thirdwoe - 12-10-2015, 03:53 AM
RE: OT - Daniel 9 - by cgjedi - 12-10-2015, 05:49 AM
RE: OT - Daniel 9 - by cgjedi - 12-12-2015, 07:35 PM
RE: OT - Daniel 9 - by Thirdwoe - 12-12-2015, 10:24 PM
RE: OT - Daniel 9 - by cgjedi - 12-13-2015, 01:58 AM
RE: OT - Daniel 9 - by Thirdwoe - 12-13-2015, 10:32 PM
RE: OT - Daniel 9 - by cgjedi - 12-13-2015, 10:54 PM
RE: OT - Daniel 9 - by Thirdwoe - 12-13-2015, 11:50 PM
RE: OT - Daniel 9 - by cgjedi - 12-14-2015, 12:06 AM
RE: OT - Daniel 9 - by Thirdwoe - 12-14-2015, 08:52 AM
RE: OT - Daniel 9 - by cgjedi - 12-15-2015, 03:32 AM
RE: OT - Daniel 9 - by Thirdwoe - 12-15-2015, 04:13 AM
RE: OT - Daniel 9 - by cgjedi - 12-15-2015, 04:51 AM
RE: OT - Daniel 9 - by Thirdwoe - 12-16-2015, 06:55 AM

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