The Messiah's Name

[The Texas RAT]

Will, <---(misnomer) <!-- s:inlove: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/inlove.gif" alt=":inlove:" title="In Love" /><!-- s:inlove: -->

What(?) that is how it is spelled on my birth certificate.
My parents named me will, so it, as a name, is not a misnomer when one is referring to me. <!-- s:whaasup: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/whaasup.gif" alt=":whaasup:" title="Whaasup" /><!-- s:whaasup: -->

I was willing to do as you wished, but since you responded to me directly about this, I'll respond back.

Chuck, I was making the one reply before you agreed to disagree. Apparently while I was making my last reply to your previous posting you posted that you agreed to disagree. Again, I was answering the post before you agreed to disagree. I agree that it looks like I posted it after your last post but actually I did it at the same time. Anyway it seemed like a good though at the time, yet all the while once viewing from within hindsight twas perhaps a bad idea?

Anyway, I do wish to respond to a few things in this last post. Especially as to a couple of words you seem to be putting in my mouth - which are highly distasteful (ergo the following regurgitation).

What seems to be your hang up, Will, is that you seem to think that the Hebrew form is the more holy one for some reason, and that we must not use any other from once we think we got it down just right, as if God would be upset if we do, or that the Name is less holy or less authoritative if it's not in Hebrew and said just right. If you do think like that, Will, you?re very mistaken. Hebrew is not a "holy language" and more special to God than other languages are. He is no respecter of Persons or languages, and is Worshiped and Praised just as well in all of them.

First off I do not call Eloheem "God". As God/Gawd/Gahd is the name of a pagan deity and YHWH tells use not to use pagan deity names when referring to Him (So I don't). Any way as I said God is just a figment of feeble man's imagination (i.e.- a pagan deity), and it never had one though period. And on that note I never think it thunk a thing. You must have mistaken me for someone else!

Secondly for the same reason above, I do not call anything Holy (especially when referring to YHWH or anything within His Kingdom) unless I am referring to a pagan deitess.


Anywho, as to your intended message, I still lay claim that transliterations are not of the language they are being used in, they are of the original language. So if one uses an Aramaic, Greek, Latin, or English transliteration of an original Hebrew name they are speaking Hebrew.

Jesus is a transliteration of a Latin transliteration of a Greek transliteration of an Aramaic transliteration which is a transliteration of an original Hebrew name, so (even though the first was poorly done to start with) when one says any of these transliterations they are speaking Hebrew [and poorly at that]. Just like HalleluYah - in the form I present here, is an English transliteration of a Hebrew phrase (i.e. - translates into English as "praise ye Yah") - and when any one says this English transliteration (instead of just saying "praise ye Yah" in English) they are saying a Hebrew phrase. And anything short of 100% phonetics of the original phonetics is poor Hebrew. There is no truthfulness for one to lay claim they are speaking another language as justification for hacking up a the phonetics of a perfectly good name, it just ain't right. And yes, while YHWH listens to and loves us ignorant people (me included), He could care less for our ignorance (Hoshayah[Hosea] 4:6, thence 2nd TimoTheos[Timothy] 2:15).

When Yehoshua/Yeshua is given His New Name by His Father, will you complain if it's not Hebrew?

Oh course not, but at the same time do not expect me to fall for any poorly done transliterations thereof though. I expect to call Yehoshuah by His New Name 100% phonetically as YHWH declares as I possibly can - out of a whole hearted respect unto Both the Namer and Namee.


All such aside, back to this threads original intent.
Concerning the definition of The Anointed One's Name [being all transliterations (whether done correctly or not) are supposed to carry the definition over from the original language (as well as the phonetics)], I understand it means "He will save" (due to the fact that any and all transliteration mentioned in this thread will still carry the definition of the Hebrew name Yehoshua, as it is the original name which the others were supposed to be fashioned after in the first place). So even if you, Chuck, were to be right about YHWH caring less if we use poor transliterations the definition would still remain the same as that of the original Hebrew name - i.e. Yehoshua - (unless someone would like to share some far fetched ideas as to how YHWH does not care if we change the intended definition of His Son's Name too boot(?).

Chuck, if you have a comment(s?) about the definition(s?) of The Anointed One(s?)'s Name(s?) you care to add at this point please do.