01-26-2012, 10:38 PM
If I may change gears for a moment, I would like to get back to the purpose and heart of this thread based on the name of it:
"The Messiah IS YHWH ---> Proven".
On page 2 of this thread, I listed all (?) verses where the different forms of MarYah appear. 192/215 times in the PeshittA/O respectively. Again using the document I found by Dave Bauscher (and by using his info, I am not endorsing his beliefs as true or not? all though I do not agree with his PeshittO viewpoint as I am a PeshittA primacist), I wanted to make a second list showing ONLY the verses showing the correlation between Y'shua and MarYah. It is a much shorter list but coming in at 50 (49?) verses, it still is a powerful testimony when you take into account everything else said in this thread.
Some of the verses are more clear than others at first sight, but there are quite a few which are so painfully obvious you have to WANT to deny the association to not see it. Then admittedly there are a couple I look at and think? maybe/maybe not.
And keep in mind, I said these show the "correlation". I am not saying Y'shua is His own Father in the sense Texas RAT was having issues with. But there is a very strong relation which Thirdwoe excellently explained. All that being said, here is the list with the numbers in [ ] showing the total occurrences within a certain book.
[4] ?
Matthew 3:3
Matthew 22:43
Matthew 22:45
Matthew 28:2 (not so clear IMHO so I ? the inclusion of it in this list)
[1]
Mark 1:3
[3]
Luke 1:76
Luke 2:11
Luke 3:4
[2]
John 1:23
John 8:11
[8]
Acts 2:20
Acts 2:21(Basuscher has a note on this and the above verse: "See verse 36, 1 Cor. 8:6, 1 Cor 12:3-6 & Eph. 4:4-6 to establish that Y'shua is the sole bearer of the Sacred Name "Maryah")
Acts 2:36
Acts 2:38
Acts 9:10
Acts 9:15
Acts 9:27
Acts 10:36
[5]
Romans 10:12
Romans 10:13
Romans 14:9
Romans 14:11
Romans 14:14
[8]
1Cor 4:5
1Cor 8:6
1Cor 11:27 x2
1Cor 11:29
1Cor 12:3
1Cor 12:5 (Bauscher's note: "See verses 4-6.")
1Cor 15:47
[2]
2Cor 3:18 x2 (Bauscher's note: "See v.14 & 4:6")
[1]
Eph 4:5 (Basuscher repeats his note from earlier: "See verse 36, 1 Cor. 8:6, 1 Cor 12:3-6 & Eph. 4:4-6 to establish that Y'shua is the sole bearer of the Sacred Name "Maryah")
[1]
Phillpians 2:11
[1]
Collosians 3:24
[3]
James 3:9
James 5:7
James 5:10
[2]
1Peter 2:3 (Bauscher's note: "See 2:4")
1Peter 3:15
[1]
Jude 1:14
[8]
Revelation 1:8
Revelation 4:8
Revelation 11:17
Revelation 14:10
Revelation 15:3
Revelation 15:4
Revelation 22:6
Revelation 22:20
Even if you reject some of these verses as proving the case, as I said earlier, there are quite a few that so solidly establish
"The Messiah is YHWH ---> Proven", I can only accept this as fact.
"The Messiah IS YHWH ---> Proven".
On page 2 of this thread, I listed all (?) verses where the different forms of MarYah appear. 192/215 times in the PeshittA/O respectively. Again using the document I found by Dave Bauscher (and by using his info, I am not endorsing his beliefs as true or not? all though I do not agree with his PeshittO viewpoint as I am a PeshittA primacist), I wanted to make a second list showing ONLY the verses showing the correlation between Y'shua and MarYah. It is a much shorter list but coming in at 50 (49?) verses, it still is a powerful testimony when you take into account everything else said in this thread.
Some of the verses are more clear than others at first sight, but there are quite a few which are so painfully obvious you have to WANT to deny the association to not see it. Then admittedly there are a couple I look at and think? maybe/maybe not.
And keep in mind, I said these show the "correlation". I am not saying Y'shua is His own Father in the sense Texas RAT was having issues with. But there is a very strong relation which Thirdwoe excellently explained. All that being said, here is the list with the numbers in [ ] showing the total occurrences within a certain book.
[4] ?
Matthew 3:3
Matthew 22:43
Matthew 22:45
Matthew 28:2 (not so clear IMHO so I ? the inclusion of it in this list)
[1]
Mark 1:3
[3]
Luke 1:76
Luke 2:11
Luke 3:4
[2]
John 1:23
John 8:11
[8]
Acts 2:20
Acts 2:21(Basuscher has a note on this and the above verse: "See verse 36, 1 Cor. 8:6, 1 Cor 12:3-6 & Eph. 4:4-6 to establish that Y'shua is the sole bearer of the Sacred Name "Maryah")
Acts 2:36
Acts 2:38
Acts 9:10
Acts 9:15
Acts 9:27
Acts 10:36
[5]
Romans 10:12
Romans 10:13
Romans 14:9
Romans 14:11
Romans 14:14
[8]
1Cor 4:5
1Cor 8:6
1Cor 11:27 x2
1Cor 11:29
1Cor 12:3
1Cor 12:5 (Bauscher's note: "See verses 4-6.")
1Cor 15:47
[2]
2Cor 3:18 x2 (Bauscher's note: "See v.14 & 4:6")
[1]
Eph 4:5 (Basuscher repeats his note from earlier: "See verse 36, 1 Cor. 8:6, 1 Cor 12:3-6 & Eph. 4:4-6 to establish that Y'shua is the sole bearer of the Sacred Name "Maryah")
[1]
Phillpians 2:11
[1]
Collosians 3:24
[3]
James 3:9
James 5:7
James 5:10
[2]
1Peter 2:3 (Bauscher's note: "See 2:4")
1Peter 3:15
[1]
Jude 1:14
[8]
Revelation 1:8
Revelation 4:8
Revelation 11:17
Revelation 14:10
Revelation 15:3
Revelation 15:4
Revelation 22:6
Revelation 22:20
Even if you reject some of these verses as proving the case, as I said earlier, there are quite a few that so solidly establish
"The Messiah is YHWH ---> Proven", I can only accept this as fact.