03-31-2013, 04:22 PM
If you mean by "respect", that I would consider that a false teaching might be true...then no, I do not respect your false teaching. I love you and respect you as a person, but I love and respect you enough to tell you that you are mislead and mistaken about this matter and it looks like other things as well.
Now you say Messiah did not pre-exist?
Really?
Yeshua said He did. He said He existed before Abraham did, and Abraham lived some 2,000 years before Messiah became flesh and dwelt among us.
---> "Yeshua said to them, ?Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.? John 8:58
---> ?I said to you that you shall die in your sins, for unless you shall believe that I AM, you shall die in your sins.? John 8:24
I AM??? Who?
---> "God said to Moses, ?I AM WHO I AM.? And he said, ?Say this to the people of Israel, ?I AM has sent me to you.?? Exodus 3:14
You say that the "Jews" would not think that Messiah was God manifested in the flesh...of course the false "Jews" did not accept this Truth...they rejected Messiah and would not believe who He really is...it's the same today. Yeshua told them that they were not really Jews at all, and that their real father was the devil. Later the Apostle Paul explained how that is. You should not use their reasoning as the measure of Truth, Mic. Very bad idea.
The Apostle T'ama was a True Jew...look what he believed. ---> "And after eight days, again the disciples were inside and T'ama was with them, and Yeshua came in when the doors were locked; he stood in the center and he said to them, ?Peace be with you.? And he said to T'ama, ?Put your finger here and behold my hands and put your hand and reach into my side and do not be an unbeliever, but a believer.? And T'ama answered and said to him, ?My Master, and my Alahe!? Yeshua said to him, ?Now that you have seen me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen me and have believed.? John 26:29
Shlama,
Chuck
Now you say Messiah did not pre-exist?
Really?
Yeshua said He did. He said He existed before Abraham did, and Abraham lived some 2,000 years before Messiah became flesh and dwelt among us.
---> "Yeshua said to them, ?Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.? John 8:58
---> ?I said to you that you shall die in your sins, for unless you shall believe that I AM, you shall die in your sins.? John 8:24
I AM??? Who?
---> "God said to Moses, ?I AM WHO I AM.? And he said, ?Say this to the people of Israel, ?I AM has sent me to you.?? Exodus 3:14
You say that the "Jews" would not think that Messiah was God manifested in the flesh...of course the false "Jews" did not accept this Truth...they rejected Messiah and would not believe who He really is...it's the same today. Yeshua told them that they were not really Jews at all, and that their real father was the devil. Later the Apostle Paul explained how that is. You should not use their reasoning as the measure of Truth, Mic. Very bad idea.
The Apostle T'ama was a True Jew...look what he believed. ---> "And after eight days, again the disciples were inside and T'ama was with them, and Yeshua came in when the doors were locked; he stood in the center and he said to them, ?Peace be with you.? And he said to T'ama, ?Put your finger here and behold my hands and put your hand and reach into my side and do not be an unbeliever, but a believer.? And T'ama answered and said to him, ?My Master, and my Alahe!? Yeshua said to him, ?Now that you have seen me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen me and have believed.? John 26:29
Shlama,
Chuck