02-14-2005, 11:04 PM
Are you talking to me Akhi Bar Khela, do I believe you that Aramaic Christians did such and such? I don't know. I've never investigated such. But I have investigated what Tamerlane did. I have investigated what other caliphs did in trying to wipe out the COE from the earth, so guess what? A few of them tried to fight back, some during Mohammed's lifetime? I think the Muslims more than compensated in the intervening centuries for what happened to them in the 600's, assuming what you say is true. I don't like to see any innocent blood shed. But neither does that obscure the other facts I have mentioned.
And I honestly pity you that you are so filled with self-loathing as to diss your own people. It is wrong to make sweeping generalizations of any group. These two continents, North and South America, were named for a black man. The first martyr in the cause that led to the Revolutionary War was also black. How is it I know these things and you either do not, or discount them? It is your people that hold the Ark of the Covenant in Ethiopia, not mine. It is your people who possess the oldest form of continuous Judasim in the world, not mine.
Now let us deal with another question, do I trust you in general? Do I feel that you honestly try to seek truth and learn facts even if I disagree with your conclusions? The answer to that is an unqualified and resounding YES, I do. But I also say to you the same words that the Sultan of Baghdad said to Hooligoo, the Mongol general, even though it turned out badly for the Sultan: "Oh young man, who has scarcely embarked on your career." You have no clue about the complexities of the Middle East Akhi, and the people who do, who are probably advising you, are lying.
But all this is still beside the main issue. I don't give a rip if the occasional rabbi or two is waiting on spiritual Israel. I don't need their websites, I don't need their propaganda or their myopia. I disagree with them on Y'shua as it is, I have no compunction whatsoever also disgreeing with anyone who is wrong on Israel, rabbi, Gentile or young African American men. Am I clear Akhi? I go by the Torah that gave Israel to my people. Period. End of story.
The main issue then is that almost ALL JEWS in Israel, their ancestors, their children almost ALL JEWS in Europe, in America, wherever, they are Zionists. You have called all Zionists wicked. You have not even bothered to try to distinguish between Zionists who want to negotiate and Zionists who pick up guns. We are therefore all the same to you. All wicked. And none of us have any right to our own holy sites built by our own people multiple centuries before the Arabs realized that worshiipping three goddess idols in the Kaba stone might not be such a good idea. Even Mohammed says that, that he had to break those idols down.
I want you to STOP saying these lies. I want you to STOP saying that anyone who thinks Israel has a right to exist is evil regardless as to how they want to reach their goals, even if totally peacefully. Is that simple enough for you?
And I honestly pity you that you are so filled with self-loathing as to diss your own people. It is wrong to make sweeping generalizations of any group. These two continents, North and South America, were named for a black man. The first martyr in the cause that led to the Revolutionary War was also black. How is it I know these things and you either do not, or discount them? It is your people that hold the Ark of the Covenant in Ethiopia, not mine. It is your people who possess the oldest form of continuous Judasim in the world, not mine.
Now let us deal with another question, do I trust you in general? Do I feel that you honestly try to seek truth and learn facts even if I disagree with your conclusions? The answer to that is an unqualified and resounding YES, I do. But I also say to you the same words that the Sultan of Baghdad said to Hooligoo, the Mongol general, even though it turned out badly for the Sultan: "Oh young man, who has scarcely embarked on your career." You have no clue about the complexities of the Middle East Akhi, and the people who do, who are probably advising you, are lying.
But all this is still beside the main issue. I don't give a rip if the occasional rabbi or two is waiting on spiritual Israel. I don't need their websites, I don't need their propaganda or their myopia. I disagree with them on Y'shua as it is, I have no compunction whatsoever also disgreeing with anyone who is wrong on Israel, rabbi, Gentile or young African American men. Am I clear Akhi? I go by the Torah that gave Israel to my people. Period. End of story.
The main issue then is that almost ALL JEWS in Israel, their ancestors, their children almost ALL JEWS in Europe, in America, wherever, they are Zionists. You have called all Zionists wicked. You have not even bothered to try to distinguish between Zionists who want to negotiate and Zionists who pick up guns. We are therefore all the same to you. All wicked. And none of us have any right to our own holy sites built by our own people multiple centuries before the Arabs realized that worshiipping three goddess idols in the Kaba stone might not be such a good idea. Even Mohammed says that, that he had to break those idols down.
I want you to STOP saying these lies. I want you to STOP saying that anyone who thinks Israel has a right to exist is evil regardless as to how they want to reach their goals, even if totally peacefully. Is that simple enough for you?
Shlama w'burkate
Andrew Gabriel Roth
Andrew Gabriel Roth