06-28-2008, 11:44 PM
My Brother Andrew,
First, I'm *NOT "A Protestant", Pro-test-ant, of ANY sort.
I protested for literally years, and never saw an ounce of goodness come out of ANY of it. Please don't refer to me with that term again. Thank you.
Well, the Vietnam war DID end, but I honestly don't think that it was we protestors who did it. And, what's WORSE, is that we were DUPED by the Communists. But we were all young in those days, and maybe stupid. PROBABLY STUPID, in fact.
And I'm especially NOT "a Protestant" in the religious sense of the word.
(You know how Jewish folks who don't believe in Messiah Yeshua say "Don't use THAT MAN'S name to me!" ?? That's how strongly I feel about that word.)
I would consider myself "a Messianic Gentile". This is my preferred word.
Secondly. These theories were/are NOT my own, but were put forth by Hugh Schonfield, when he was still a young man, and still a Believer in Yeshua.
I DID transmit them here, as "a theory", and nothing more.
The other book that I mentioned 'The Jewish People and Jesus Christ', by Jakob Jocz, says exactly the same thing that you said here.
I've read Ray Pritz' book extensively, several times, and he too makes the same distinctions as you.
I also read Dawid's excellant paper on the Nazarenes, that he personally sent to me, and he and Pritz share much of the same kind of thinking.
I honestly don't know what "open season on the Nazarenes means".
I've shared my heart many times here about your Jewish people, Messianic Jews, and I have NOTHING but respect for you, especially for you as a friend, a confidant, and a Brother in Messiah.
Not to mention that I have waited anxiously (but happily) for your NAZARENE notes to be a part of my studies along with Mari/P.E.A.C.E.
Your note here hurts me as you know (or you SHOULD KNOW) how much that I've looked up to you, and continue to do so till this day.
OK, I was wrong, I can accept that, but could you not have told me this in private per Matthew's gospel (chapter 18, I think) teaching?
I don't know what more to say. I await for Mari/P.E.A.C.E. in Messiah's Love.
Your Brother, Albion
P.S. If you'll simply go and read my review of Janet Magiera's "Peshitta" (which is really the PeshittO) at Barnes and Nobles Bookstore, where I mention your coming New Covenant translation (and this was over a year ago now), maybe it will help you to really see me in the light of how I feel about you, and about your work.
First, I'm *NOT "A Protestant", Pro-test-ant, of ANY sort.
I protested for literally years, and never saw an ounce of goodness come out of ANY of it. Please don't refer to me with that term again. Thank you.
Well, the Vietnam war DID end, but I honestly don't think that it was we protestors who did it. And, what's WORSE, is that we were DUPED by the Communists. But we were all young in those days, and maybe stupid. PROBABLY STUPID, in fact.
And I'm especially NOT "a Protestant" in the religious sense of the word.
(You know how Jewish folks who don't believe in Messiah Yeshua say "Don't use THAT MAN'S name to me!" ?? That's how strongly I feel about that word.)
I would consider myself "a Messianic Gentile". This is my preferred word.
Secondly. These theories were/are NOT my own, but were put forth by Hugh Schonfield, when he was still a young man, and still a Believer in Yeshua.
I DID transmit them here, as "a theory", and nothing more.
The other book that I mentioned 'The Jewish People and Jesus Christ', by Jakob Jocz, says exactly the same thing that you said here.
I've read Ray Pritz' book extensively, several times, and he too makes the same distinctions as you.
I also read Dawid's excellant paper on the Nazarenes, that he personally sent to me, and he and Pritz share much of the same kind of thinking.
I honestly don't know what "open season on the Nazarenes means".
I've shared my heart many times here about your Jewish people, Messianic Jews, and I have NOTHING but respect for you, especially for you as a friend, a confidant, and a Brother in Messiah.
Not to mention that I have waited anxiously (but happily) for your NAZARENE notes to be a part of my studies along with Mari/P.E.A.C.E.
Your note here hurts me as you know (or you SHOULD KNOW) how much that I've looked up to you, and continue to do so till this day.
OK, I was wrong, I can accept that, but could you not have told me this in private per Matthew's gospel (chapter 18, I think) teaching?
I don't know what more to say. I await for Mari/P.E.A.C.E. in Messiah's Love.
Your Brother, Albion
P.S. If you'll simply go and read my review of Janet Magiera's "Peshitta" (which is really the PeshittO) at Barnes and Nobles Bookstore, where I mention your coming New Covenant translation (and this was over a year ago now), maybe it will help you to really see me in the light of how I feel about you, and about your work.