A Question For Torah Keeping Messianics

[Stephen Silver]

Dave wrote:

You seem to be saying that "Sharbtha" means "generation" normally, but that it must mean "tribe, nation or people"- (What happened to "race"?)

Right, and "race" too.

in Matthew 24 (Mark 13, Luke 21) because of the prophecy in Jeremiah 31:36,37, which says essentially that the nation of Israel will not cease from being a nation.

Right again, Dave.

You do understand the normal meaning of "generation", don't you, Stephen? It refers to "all the people born and living at about the same time". Another is, "the average period between the birth of one generation and that of the next".

"Generation" in this case is more specific. Yeshua is speaking to the Jewish people, so he is referring to "his race/nation/people". Take the blinders off Dave.

If sharbtha means "nation" in Matthew 24:34, then it would conflict with Jeremiah 31: "This nation will not pass until all these things be fulfilled.", which would be tantamount to saying: "The universe will not come to an end until all these things be fulfilled." That would be sheer nonsense.
That tells nothing about the time of fulfillment of anything; nor does it even seem coherent.

Tell that to Jeremiah the prophet who wrote it and to Yeshua who quoted it, Dave.

The normal sense of Sharbtha-generation as "all the people born and living at about the same time" is the only one that makes good sense, and that is the meaning in almost all of its occurrences in the NT.

Let's agree to disagree and move on to something else, Dave.

Are we understanding each other?

Is that a rhetorical question?

Shlama,
Stephen
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