06-13-2008, 08:24 PM
Quote:I don't know if you believe in the rapture, Stephen; but you seem to believe in an eschatology which was popularized in relatively modern times, and seems to discard Apostolic teaching on the subject of eschatology as "primitive" or "antiquated", because, in your words, "
that obviously did not happen. Some words and phrases must be understood in the light of historical fact."
Shlama Akhi David:
The word "rapture" doesn't appear in the New Testament scriptures. I believe in the resurrection of the dead as the scriptures teach. I believe in the bodily return of Yeshua Mashikha as the angels foretold. History will bear this out.
Quote:That philosophy is backward. The Bible should not be interpreted by history. History should be interpreted through scripture. The first approach is the secular approach; the second is the Christian approach.But creeping secularism has silently encroached upon the Christian culture and emasculated it.
David, which part of my "philosophy" is backward in my above clarification on my belief about the bodily return of Yeshua Mashikha? At Yeshua's ascension two angels appeared and spoke...
Acts 1:11
"who also said, "Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven"? "This Yeshua who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw him go into heaven."
Quote:I have little hope that you will accept anything in this post. I do hope you get angry, because I know we often need to get damned angry before we change our thinking and action that needs changing. Eventually, I hope you get angry with yourself for buying a bill of goods which keeps you in what can only be described as "utter darkness" compared to the light of eternal truth.I know the difference; I've been on both sides.
Moreover, Akhi David, it is not right for any brother to provoke to anger. Yeshua didn't do this, did he? Yeshua was angry at hard-heartedness of religious leaders and teachers when they forgot an important commandment, namely to love your neighbour as yourself. Yeshua's anger was never sparked by trivial matters.
Quote:I may seem mean and miserable to Albion and to you; actually, I am very easy going and as happy as I believe is possible for anyone to be.
Proverbs 27:2
"Let another man praise you and not your own mouth,
A stranger and not your own lips."
Quote:I have reconsidered my translation of "Shatyn":
Paul wrote: "If we are madmen, it is for God."
I am in good company, I think, though I may be a madman to you.
Paul wasn't a madman. The Apostle Paul was, as it were, "beside himself/extremely perplexed within himself" and very much aware of his continuing need for the Saviour to guide him step by step along the way, akhi. I think it's better to translate "shatyn" in context to the point Paul was making.
Quote:I could only hope you will become as "mad" as I am; Albion too. I think he has a lot of anger in him. And he thinks I'm nasty.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I have no intention of following your lead, Akhi David.
Shlama,
Stephen
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