Matt. 23

[Dawid]

Shlama Akhay Andrew & Dawid,

"Andrew, remember. It is always far better to love the heaven into someone, than to scare the hell out of them."

Now those words make more sense than everything else you guys have said here recently on the current topic.

Then perhaps I need to explain what I've said more thoroughly. I follow the rational argument, so everything I say should make at least a degree of sense.

And that is how the Torah is kept. It is kept by Love, writing it into our hearts and minds, which is the Dithaykay Khadatha- Ha Brit Khadath, according to Jeremiah 31:31. There is no boasting, pride, bigotry or contempt in The Love of Alaha and Meshikha, which fulfills the Torah.
Ro 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
Ro 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.

I agree. However, the Torah tells us what it means to love one's neighbor. I have not boasted about what I've done or who I am. I did not intend to boast at all. If I have please show me where it was and I will make amends. I have simply stated that I do not think that our two faiths can be said to be one. Maybe mine is right and yours is wrong. Maybe yours is right and mine is wrong. It's the biggest bet anyone will ever make. It's the world's highest stakes gamble, and everybody's playing. I simply said that we do not have our chips on the same number. If that is arrogance, then I apologize.

I detect an effete snobbery and elitism exuding from some of these posts, especially from Dawid's delineations between "the true faith, gospel & Messiah" of Nazarenes and the false faith,gospel and Messiah of "Xians". I don't detect Rukha d'Quudsha in that at all and cannot believe Yeshua's Spirit is in any of such words. Zeal without the Love of Yeshua and Alaha is destructive and more like Saul of Tarsus who hated & slaughtered Christians than Shlikha Paul who was slaughtered as a Christian.

I never delineated between truth and falsehood. I did not undertake to accuse anyone. I did undertake to point out that our views are different. I did not tout the superiority of my own. It is as much as if a Jew were to tell a Muslim "we follow the same God, but different faiths." That should be fairly obvious. I don't think the Muslim should take offense, or that it is a statement of superiority. It is simply a statement that we are different. I have a friend who follows a kind of new-age Amer-indian religion. Is it reasonable for her to take offense if I point out that we are not serving the same God(s)? I did not intend to sound superior, because I think we're all putting our money where we think best, and that's all we can do.
I am depending on the Scriptures, the "Word of Truth," not your detection, to validate or invalidate my beliefs, chaveri.
Believe me, I love Yeshu'ah and Elohim.

It reminds me of Luke 9:51-56 where the the "Sons of Thunder" needed a lesson from our Lord about His Spirit and mission, when they thought He should destroy the Samaritan towns that did not receive Him:
"54. And when Yaqob and Yohannan his disciples saw it, they were saying
to him, "Our Lord, do you want us to speak and fire will descend from
Heaven, and will consume them as Elijah also did?"
55. And he turned and he rebuked them and he said, "You do not know of which Spirit you are."
56. ???For The Son of Man has not come to destroy lives but to give life.???
And they went to other villages.

Do we really know The Messiah?

I, too, believe that HaMashiakh came to give life. And life more abundant. As it is written, "I have set before you this day life and a blessing, death and a cursing. Therefore choose ye life that you may live, you and your seed."

Shalom uvrachoth,
Dawid