09-06-2004, 05:50 PM
Shlama Ooze,
The doctrine of infallibilty is self evident in any manuscript or version of Matthew or Isaiah, or Luke or The Psalms, or Deuteronomy. It is a doctrine of both testaments which you have obviously missed:
Ps 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Ps 119:140 Thy word is very pure: therefore thy servant loveth it.
Pr 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Isa 40:8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.
De 8:3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.
Mt 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Lu 4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
You are commanded to live by every word of God.
God has not failed us. He has preserved every word, or we could not keep it. Our Lord obviously believed it had been preserved in His time from 1500 years previous.
You say this forum would not be necessary if infallibilty were true. I say it is true. The reason the forum is needed is that many people are ignorant and unbelieving. They need educating.
As far as the ancient texts, your statement does not apply to The Peshitta mss. I have analyzed the Peshitta versions and The Greek mss. The Peshitta versions are separated by no more than 100 letters in The NT apart from the passage on the adulteress and difference in the canons.
These differences are easily corrected by collation of mss..
To say inspiration and scripture are an outgrowth of church authority is a gross error. The scriptures are God's word and work. Inspiration cannot be man's work, nor can any writer of scripture take credit for that scripture. He would tell you it is the word of the living God.
Greek has been a decoy from the source. Search the Hebrew and Aramaic scriptures for the truth. The Greek will ultimately come to a dead end, for it is a translation of the word, not the word itself.
Blessings,
Dave B
Quote:But the issue of fallibility and infallibility should be self evident. I think if the doctine of infalliblity etc. that many people believe was really right their actually would be no need for this forum. Bascially all the ancient texts, would say the same exact thing in the same exact way.
I believe the Holy Scriptures are inspired and profitable for instruction etc. But that they are ultimately the product of the inpiration of the Holy Spirit, and are an outgrowth of the authority of the Church.
The doctrine of infallibilty is self evident in any manuscript or version of Matthew or Isaiah, or Luke or The Psalms, or Deuteronomy. It is a doctrine of both testaments which you have obviously missed:
Ps 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
Ps 119:140 Thy word is very pure: therefore thy servant loveth it.
Pr 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Isa 40:8 The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.
De 8:3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.
Mt 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
Lu 4:4 And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
You are commanded to live by every word of God.
God has not failed us. He has preserved every word, or we could not keep it. Our Lord obviously believed it had been preserved in His time from 1500 years previous.
You say this forum would not be necessary if infallibilty were true. I say it is true. The reason the forum is needed is that many people are ignorant and unbelieving. They need educating.
As far as the ancient texts, your statement does not apply to The Peshitta mss. I have analyzed the Peshitta versions and The Greek mss. The Peshitta versions are separated by no more than 100 letters in The NT apart from the passage on the adulteress and difference in the canons.
These differences are easily corrected by collation of mss..
To say inspiration and scripture are an outgrowth of church authority is a gross error. The scriptures are God's word and work. Inspiration cannot be man's work, nor can any writer of scripture take credit for that scripture. He would tell you it is the word of the living God.
Greek has been a decoy from the source. Search the Hebrew and Aramaic scriptures for the truth. The Greek will ultimately come to a dead end, for it is a translation of the word, not the word itself.
Blessings,
Dave B
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