08-30-2004, 03:11 PM
Dear Dave,
Yes, I know the meaning of the word sarcasm and also its origin.
I am glad that you have clarified to me about your personality and your background. Thanks. Sometimes we judged the intention of other people's heart due to the miscommunication that we had in the forum. Many times people quarelled needlessly due to miscommunication or poor communication skills. We tend to think that whatever we say is always clear and obvious and easily understood by others. But the truth is that others don't always see things as we do, and therefore we need to be careful with what we said and also be forgiving to what others said about us.
If we accept the fact that our communication is always plagued by difficulties in the way we express ourselves, as well as how we perceive others, and how we are perceived by others, we should be able to see how important it is to learn to understand properly to what others are trying to say.
The first step to improve our communication is saying honestly and clearly what is on our mind. We should speak the truth even if it is not what others wish to hear. Keeping quiet or merely agreeing with others, especially when you know differently, will not help anyone.
However, being totally honest does not give us the license to be mean or sarcastic towards others. This is not about winning a debate but communicating to be understood and to understand others' point of view. We should also realize that others have their own version of what they think and believe is true just like we have ours.
We can only state our point of view as we perceive them from the amount of knowledge that we have gained in the past. We should avoid using language or a tone of voice that implies blame on others as though that we know better than them. We shouldn't try to score points or to make the other person look bad.
As you came from military background, I can understand the kind of language that you used that sometimes sound harsh, or seems mean, or sarcastic to others who are not familiar with military life. All of us have different experiences in life and upbringing. Some of us are eloquent in speech and some are not. That is why we need to try to understand each other instead of resorting to ridicule others.
Too many times we can see that some people in this forum are making imaginary war between Aramaic NT and Greek NT as though that one of them is evil or a fraud or Satanic, etc. when the truth is the errors are the result of unintentional mistakes of the copyists or the translators just like you mispelled the word "semitic" in another thread. Sorry. Don't get me wrong. I am not trying to pick up on you or ridicule you for your mistake. I just want to make a point that all of us made mistakes and keep on making mistakes. When we made mistakes, we should be honest enough to examine the cause of our errors.
How do copyists or the translators of the Bible feel when you accuse them of Satanic when the truth is they have done their best to copy or translate the Bible?
Therefore, when you said that the Holy Spirit told you so and so regarding certain matters, you should be wise enough to differentiate between your personal opinions and the Holy Spirit. For example, "semetic" is not from the Holy Spirit but from your typo error or your personal knowledge about how the word "Semitic" is spelled. Those who know how "Semitic" is spelled will disagree with your spelling.
We as a human being are unique as all of us have opinions. On certain matters we share same opinions. On other matters, we disagree. What the Holy Spirit can show us depends on the level of knowledge that we have. If we have not read a certain translation of the Bible or have not read the original language from where that English translation of the Bible is translated from, then it is not wise for us to make unnecessary comments about that English translation and attribute our unwise and unnecessary comments to the Holy Spirit.
Regarding Chris or drmlanc, I know who he is before everyone else (except Paul Younan and God, and the angels). There are many things that I disagree with him and I agree with you. And there are also certain things that I agree with him. I don't feel the need to attack him for not sharing my opinions. I don't know his age but I think he is still young and has the zeal of a youth. That is why in another thread I told him that I am willing to host his site as long as he edit the offensive part as I don't want to be a partner in crime with him in attacking the OT in Hebrew or the church. I appreciate his heart and zeal for God's word. And he agrees to edit it.
I have no time to read his works as I know that most of the materials are taken from this forum or the materials that I myself am familiar with. I have visited his web sites in the past and I am fully aware of his unorthodox opinions. And I also do appreciate your input on his writings.
Peace,
Dan Gan
Yes, I know the meaning of the word sarcasm and also its origin.
I am glad that you have clarified to me about your personality and your background. Thanks. Sometimes we judged the intention of other people's heart due to the miscommunication that we had in the forum. Many times people quarelled needlessly due to miscommunication or poor communication skills. We tend to think that whatever we say is always clear and obvious and easily understood by others. But the truth is that others don't always see things as we do, and therefore we need to be careful with what we said and also be forgiving to what others said about us.
If we accept the fact that our communication is always plagued by difficulties in the way we express ourselves, as well as how we perceive others, and how we are perceived by others, we should be able to see how important it is to learn to understand properly to what others are trying to say.
The first step to improve our communication is saying honestly and clearly what is on our mind. We should speak the truth even if it is not what others wish to hear. Keeping quiet or merely agreeing with others, especially when you know differently, will not help anyone.
However, being totally honest does not give us the license to be mean or sarcastic towards others. This is not about winning a debate but communicating to be understood and to understand others' point of view. We should also realize that others have their own version of what they think and believe is true just like we have ours.
We can only state our point of view as we perceive them from the amount of knowledge that we have gained in the past. We should avoid using language or a tone of voice that implies blame on others as though that we know better than them. We shouldn't try to score points or to make the other person look bad.
As you came from military background, I can understand the kind of language that you used that sometimes sound harsh, or seems mean, or sarcastic to others who are not familiar with military life. All of us have different experiences in life and upbringing. Some of us are eloquent in speech and some are not. That is why we need to try to understand each other instead of resorting to ridicule others.
Too many times we can see that some people in this forum are making imaginary war between Aramaic NT and Greek NT as though that one of them is evil or a fraud or Satanic, etc. when the truth is the errors are the result of unintentional mistakes of the copyists or the translators just like you mispelled the word "semitic" in another thread. Sorry. Don't get me wrong. I am not trying to pick up on you or ridicule you for your mistake. I just want to make a point that all of us made mistakes and keep on making mistakes. When we made mistakes, we should be honest enough to examine the cause of our errors.
How do copyists or the translators of the Bible feel when you accuse them of Satanic when the truth is they have done their best to copy or translate the Bible?
Therefore, when you said that the Holy Spirit told you so and so regarding certain matters, you should be wise enough to differentiate between your personal opinions and the Holy Spirit. For example, "semetic" is not from the Holy Spirit but from your typo error or your personal knowledge about how the word "Semitic" is spelled. Those who know how "Semitic" is spelled will disagree with your spelling.
We as a human being are unique as all of us have opinions. On certain matters we share same opinions. On other matters, we disagree. What the Holy Spirit can show us depends on the level of knowledge that we have. If we have not read a certain translation of the Bible or have not read the original language from where that English translation of the Bible is translated from, then it is not wise for us to make unnecessary comments about that English translation and attribute our unwise and unnecessary comments to the Holy Spirit.
Regarding Chris or drmlanc, I know who he is before everyone else (except Paul Younan and God, and the angels). There are many things that I disagree with him and I agree with you. And there are also certain things that I agree with him. I don't feel the need to attack him for not sharing my opinions. I don't know his age but I think he is still young and has the zeal of a youth. That is why in another thread I told him that I am willing to host his site as long as he edit the offensive part as I don't want to be a partner in crime with him in attacking the OT in Hebrew or the church. I appreciate his heart and zeal for God's word. And he agrees to edit it.
I have no time to read his works as I know that most of the materials are taken from this forum or the materials that I myself am familiar with. I have visited his web sites in the past and I am fully aware of his unorthodox opinions. And I also do appreciate your input on his writings.
Peace,
Dan Gan
One of the first owners of the facsimile of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0802837867/ref=nosim/ultimyourulti-20"><b>Codex Leningrad</b></a>