09-16-2003, 05:04 PM
Quote:She was so adamant about the silencing of women in ministry and the total hypocrisy of women being allowed to do everything overseas but nothing at home in ministry (plus a million other rude, vulgar and overly domineering stances toward women made by men who contort Scripture to fit their every whim), that she delved deeply into Biblical Language studies.
Nowhere in the teachings of Y'shua, nor in the rest of the B'rit Chadashah, do we see anything authorizing female S'michah (Ordination). On the contrary, the example that Y'shua set was selecting Twelve men, and there are explicit limits upon the roles that women can perform within congregations (1 Corinthians 14:33-35).
Congregational offices are restricted to men, and the one man who is ultimately responsible for the congregation is the Paqid (Overseer).
1 Timothy 3:2-7
A Paqid then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach; not given to wine, not violent, not greedy for money, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not covetous; one who rules his own house well, having his children in submission with all reverence (for if a man does not know how to rule his own house, how will he take care of the assembly of Elohim?); not a novice, lest being puffed up with pride he fall into the same condemnation as the devil. Moreover he must have a good testimony among those who are outside, lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil.
Unlike the Paqid, who can be relatively young man like Timothy was, for a man to hold the office of Zaken (Elder) his children must all be of age to have personally accepted Y'shua and in fact done so:
Titus 1:5-6
I left you on the island of Crete so you could complete our work there and appoint Zakenim in each town as I instructed you. A Zaken must be well thought of for his good life. He must be faithful to his wife, and his children must be believers who are not wild or rebellious.
Mshamshana (Servants) are men selected to be in charge of temporal needs of believers, such as distributing charity to believing widows from the funds of the local assembly (Acts 6:1-6).
1 Timothy 3:8-12
Likewise Mshamshana must be reverent, not double-tongued, not given to much wine, not greedy for money, holding the mystery of the faith with a pure conscience. But let these also first be tested; then let them serve as Mshamshana, being found blameless. Likewise, their wives must be reverent, not slanderers, temperate, faithful in all things. Let Mshamshana be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well.
Yisra'el has been always been a patriarchal society, and the B'rit Chadashah clearly expects ordained men to govern the congregations as they do their wives and children. Jewish and Church tradition are united in that only men may be receive S'michah. All the liberal branches of Judaism (Reform) and Christianity that have allowed female ordination, quickly then start ordaining homosexuals. It is the same politcally correct perversion, just in different forms.
Quote:For example, one passage of Scripture was so pivotal in the treatment of women, that she made an entire chart entitled "Rendering of TESHUQA in ancient versions" featuring the Septuagint, Peshitto, Samaritan Pentateuch, The Old Latin, Sahidic, Bohairic, Aethiopic, Arabic, Aquila, Symmachus and Theodotion, Latin Vulgate, Babylon Targum and Babylon Talmud.
The verses in question are Gen. 3:16, Gen. 4:7, and Song of Sol. 7:10. Unanimously, "turning" is the common concensus as opposed to "desire" which has been misinterpreted to mean "make your wife into a sex-slave or any kind of slave" evidently.
I notice she avoided, "...and he shall rule over you", to focus on, "...thy desire [shall be] to thy husband".
Quote:If this woman were still alive today she'd really roast these womanizers and male chauvinist pigs (some of which find their way into our pulpits unfortunately).
If believing the Scriptures that men are meant to rule over their households, and that women are NOT supposed to be "equals" with men, nor teach men, etc., means I'm a "male chauvinist pig"... I much rather be that than a weak willed little man that that would rather follow the direction of modern society than his Elohim.
Regards, Craig