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The gospel of Jesus Christ: What is it?
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Thanks a lot for the Words, Thirdwoe.

Arkady Wrote:if you meet someone who is bishop or priest and he stands in Grace (I could not meet any one so far) there are several things to do to be adopted by God as his son:

This has actually been on my mind for a while now. How in heaven's name do you know who "stands in Grace" and who doesn't? How can anyone tell who truly has spiritual authority (or the indwelling of the Holy Spirit) to properly perform all of the tasks you've mentioned? Are there telltale signs I should be looking for? It states that, "you will know them by their fruit." So if someone -doesn't- showcase the fruit of the Spirit (which are love, joy, peace, etc), is that how you know that they're not "them?"

Also, if I get baptized by a bishop or priest that I think is in Grace, but is not, then what? Has my baptism amounted to nothing?

I think the above questions are important because I would assume that people -do- need to be "in Grace" in order to impart that Grace upon others. I mean you can't go to a local pharmacy and have some random clerk behind the counter anoint you with oil, as that'll obviously be of no effect. But then is it different just because you are a priest? Do all priests have the indwelling?

Arkady Wrote:Get born again to wash away your sins by triple immersion in water by clergy in the Name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost.

I've actually been looking into getting baptized, but have not found the proper setting.

Now just so we're on the same page, by "immersion", you mean literally, right? As in, my entire body? If so, then that's what I would like done and what I believe the apostles did, but who does that these days? Guess I'll just have to figure that out.

Arkady Wrote:Get annointed with oil by clergy to receive the Holy Spirit (this replaces the laying on of hadns for laymen)

Two-part question:

1.) What possible reason could there be for change? Was the giving of the Holy Spirit by the laying of the apostles' hands not good enough? It's been the accepted method of imparting the Holy Spirit by those who we know were truly moved by the Holy Spirit, and now after a quick Google search I see that such an act was left out because it was "not considered essential?" Really? We know that God never changes, so why is it that man is always trying to mold Him into what he thinks He is? What am I missing here?

2.) The oil. Speaking with regard to the Churches of the East, Wikipedia states, "They also add a portion of the old anointing oil to the newly made anointing oil to establish a continuity of the oil, believed to reach back to the early disciples." So is the oil ineffective if it doesn't have that continuity factor? If so, that would make it even harder to find a church that actually has the "right" oil. If it doesn't matter, then why put so much effort into preserving that link?

Arkady Wrote:Try to confess your sins on a daily or weekly basis because they tend to accumulate quickly and participate in the Holy Communion.

After one gets baptized, do their daily sins need to be confessed to a priest? Or can they confess them wherever, whenever?

Thanks again, everyone.
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Re: The gospel of Jesus Christ: What is it? - by Arkady - 02-27-2012, 08:20 AM
Re: The gospel of Jesus Christ: What is it? - by Arkady - 02-28-2012, 07:25 AM
Re: The gospel of Jesus Christ: What is it? - by Arkady - 02-28-2012, 10:47 AM
Re: The gospel of Jesus Christ: What is it? - by Arkady - 02-29-2012, 04:30 AM
Re: The gospel of Jesus Christ: What is it? - by Arkady - 02-29-2012, 10:15 AM
Re: The gospel of Jesus Christ: What is it? - by Seeker - 02-29-2012, 06:36 PM
Re: The gospel of Jesus Christ: What is it? - by Arkady - 02-29-2012, 07:28 PM
Re: The gospel of Jesus Christ: What is it? - by Arkady - 02-29-2012, 07:55 PM
Re: The gospel of Jesus Christ: What is it? - by Arkady - 02-29-2012, 08:02 PM
Re: The gospel of Jesus Christ: What is it? - by Arkady - 02-29-2012, 08:17 PM

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