04-13-2010, 07:13 PM
Kara Wrote:Quote:if you've been around Christianity for so long, you should know that the proper way to confront personal issues with another individual is to contact them privately first, and if no response is made, then to take other believers with you. if you haven't done that in this case, then you really should. i don't know what exactly you expect out of Paul or why, but that should be the way you handle this personal situation.
judging a man's eternal destiny based on your sole interaction with him over the web is a hugely mistaken route, in my opinion. i've disagreed heatedly with individuals before over the web, but who are we to judge another's acceptance into Paradise based on our sole interaction over the web? you don't know the factors that bear on each individual with whom you interact. you can disagree until you're blue in the face, but judging one's salvation based on your sole interaction is not mature, and, i would venture to surmise, a gutsy action before the Holy One.
First, it is well known that Christians believe that they are eternally "saved" because of their faith. In effect, the priest who dedicated his life to unrelenting service, the Christian who consumes the wealth of orphans and widows, and the atheist who uttered a deathbed confession in midst his anxious family will all enter the same gate to an abode of bliss upon death, since they are all sprinkled with the "blood of the lamb."
I was referring to this strange concept in regards to Paul and his actions. I, as a Muslim, showed him the utmost brotherly love and respect by performing the act of communion with him at a church service while he was in LA. I, as a Muslim, would have defended him and his church onto death. So to turn his back on me while I was in need constitutes betrayal.
Perhaps he can fashion rings for his dogs with the pieces of silver in his satchel.
Secondly, although I am well-acquainted with Christianity, are you seriously disappointed that I did not follow Christian protocol in regards to this issue? As I do not expect you to wash your feet and hands before church service and actually place your face in the dust, while praying, before the Lord of all worlds, please respect my difference as well.
Kevin, i can't speak to your issues with Paul, as i referenced above. but if you perceive that it is all about faith and not works, where is your qualm with him? as long as he believes in Messiah, wouldn't that surpass what wrong you feel has been done to you, thus you would have no place questioning his eternal destiny, except from your own faith's point of view.
Kevin, my proposal that you follow the etiquette standardized by the Messiah is not on par with your suggestion on how i would be expected to pray at a mosque. one is etiquette, aspects of which you've here stated yourself that you've participated in, and the other is theological. i'm not asking you to engage in a theological thing. you've come here and been a part willingly, of your own volition, and so i don't see it being out of the question to suggest this of you. this is between you and Paul, not everyone here. i think you may have a better result if you dealt with it by contacting him, if you have not done so personally. none of this is directed at you personally, i'm just explaining how it might better be dealt with.
curiously, though, how do Muslims deal with personal situations between another person?
Chayim b'Moshiach,
Jeremy

