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Raca - Alan G77 - 02-16-2012
doesn't this word mean spit?
Re: Raca - Paul Younan - 02-16-2012
Indeed, it does in the modern vernacular as well.
Re: Raca - Alan G77 - 02-18-2012
So Shamasha,
Jesus was basically saying that if you call your brother "spit" implying that you are lowering that person to the level of spit?
Re: Raca - distazo - 02-18-2012
I heard young Arabic boys saying in the public transport (Translated to English) to his 'friend' standing beside him: "I spit on you!"
I believe this is a common way to express hate to each other. It's quite offensive and it was in Yeshu's time as well.
Re: Raca - Paul Younan - 02-18-2012
Alan G77 Wrote:So Shamasha,
Jesus was basically saying that if you call your brother "spit" implying that you are lowering that person to the level of spit?
In the sense of something filthy that's cast out from the body, yes..lowlife, scum, etc, are the connotations.
+Shamasha
Re: Raca - Burning one - 02-18-2012
Paul Younan Wrote:Alan G77 Wrote:So Shamasha,
Jesus was basically saying that if you call your brother "spit" implying that you are lowering that person to the level of spit?
In the sense of something filthy that's cast out from the body, yes..lowlife, scum, etc, are the connotations.
+Shamasha
Shlama akhi,
i was thinking of this and the thought came: in Gilyana, there is reference to "lukewarm" people being "spewed" from the mouth of Alaha. i'm wondering if there was initially any parallel thought between that action and the term / context of RACA....
Chayim b'Moshiach,
Jeremy
Re: Raca - Paul Younan - 02-18-2012
Shlama Akhi.
To tell you the truth I was thinking about Zardak's behavior at the time!
That's a very interesting observation. I find it fascinating to explore the little facets of cultures and milieus and how similar they've been over the centuries to our very own.
Re: Raca - Burning one - 02-18-2012
Paul Younan Wrote:Shlama Akhi.
To tell you the truth I was thinking about Zardak's behavior at the time!
That's a very interesting observation. I find it fascinating to explore the little facets of cultures and milieus and how similar they've been over the centuries to our very own.
Shlama,
yeah, that behaviour crossed my mind as well ... ironic ...
yes, i was thinking about if Gilyana was indeed originally written in a Semitic tongue, if we could have access to it, would we see something there that would surprise us via RACA.... so much to ponder!
Chayim b'Moshiach,
Jeremy
Re: Raca - Stephen Silver - 02-19-2012
Shlama Kulkhon:
I think in my studies I saw an extended meaning of "tob", "return, repent, answer, vomit". TOB also means "to vomit", in the Aphel form.
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Shlama,
Stephen
Re: Raca - Burning one - 02-19-2012
Stephen Silver Wrote:Shlama Kulkhon:
I think in my studies I saw an extended meaning of "tob", "return, repent, answer, vomit". TOB also means "to vomit", in the Aphel form.
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Shlama,
Stephen
Shlama akhi,
thanks for sharing. very interesting usage! yeah, i guess it makes sense - sometimes when someone is speaking the content is closely akin to vomit! <!-- s
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Jeremy
Re: Raca - Stephen Silver - 02-19-2012
Burning one Wrote:Stephen Silver Wrote:Shlama Kulkhon:
I think in my studies I saw an extended meaning of "tob", "return, repent, answer, vomit". TOB also means "to vomit", in the Aphel form.
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Shlama,
Stephen
Shlama akhi,
thanks for sharing. very interesting usage! yeah, i guess it makes sense - sometimes when someone is speaking the content is closely akin to vomit! <!-- s
Chayim b'Moshiach,
Jeremy
Shlama Akhi Jeremy:
I was thinking more on the line of repentance. Sometimes repentance is like vomiting out the bad effects of our unbelief, our propensity to sin. It is in our speech when we are not giving honour and thanks to Alaha and it is the way we treat one another when we do not love our neighbour as ourselves. Today we have seen the pouring out of vomit from a real sick puppy. Let us pray for each other and Zardak as well, lest this foul disease of hatred and hard-heartedness cause some of us to fall. I'm a little off topic but I just felt like sharing this with my brethren.
Shlama,
Stephen
Re: Raca - Burning one - 02-19-2012
Shlama akhi,
I hadn't thought of it like that but I see exactly what you mean - an emetic to purge our wickedness! Very interesting way to look at it-- thanks for sharing. Either we do the spitting forth of our own sin in repentance, or else Alaha does the spitting forth of us from His Presence...
Prayers for true repentance have gone up. May everyone involved see His mercy anew this morning.
Chayim b'Moshiach,
Jeremy
Re: Raca - IPOstapyuk - 02-23-2012
I always regarded aramaic 'raqa' to be synonym to Hebrew 'reiq' which means 'empty person'.
Someone correct me if I am wrong for I am not 100% sure.