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Question for Paul - BrotherLarry - 03-03-2008
Shlama Akhi Paul,
I was wondering if 1st John 2:19 would qualify for the poetry section. Menan (from us / of us) is used 5 times.
Am I dreaming this or is 1st John absolutely loaded to the gills with all kinds of parallelism?!?!?!? <!-- s:tellme: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/tellme.gif" alt=":tellme:" title="Tell Me" /><!-- s:tellme: --> <!-- s
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Shlama w'Burkate, Larry Kelsey
Re: Question for Paul - Paul Younan - 03-03-2008
First John? Isn't there only one? <!-- s:lol: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/laugh.gif" alt=":lol:" title="Laugh" /><!-- s:lol: -->
I'll take a look.
Re: Question for Paul - Christina - 03-03-2008
Speaking of 1st John, I noticed that the Peshitta says "false Messiah" in all the verses where the Greek says "antichrist". What's the story there? I posted this before but no one answered me the first time <!-- s
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Re: Question for Paul - gbausc - 03-03-2008
I also have a question for Paul.
Paul, when is the last time you checked your private mail? <!-- s:eh: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/eh.gif" alt=":eh:" title="Eh" /><!-- s:eh: -->
Dave
Re: Question for Paul - BrotherLarry - 03-03-2008
Christina Wrote:Speaking of 1st John, I noticed that the Peshitta says "false Messiah" in all the verses where the Greek says "antichrist". What's the story there? I posted this before but no one answered me the first time <!-- s
Shlama Christina,
The anti- in Antichrist can mean "instead of" or "(over) against." It seems odd the more I think about it though...
because the Greek usually uses the prefix "pseudo-" for 'false'. pseudo-prophetes for 'false prophet, etc.
I'm not sure why Zorba (forum expression for 'Greek translator') did not follow suit here as well with 'pseudo-Christos.'
You'd think he would of !!! ....hmmmm <!-- s:dontgetit: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/dontgetit.gif" alt=":dontgetit:" title="Dont Get It" /><!-- s:dontgetit: --> <!-- s
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Re: Question for Paul - Christina - 03-03-2008
BrotherLarry Wrote:Christina Wrote:Speaking of 1st John, I noticed that the Peshitta says "false Messiah" in all the verses where the Greek says "antichrist". What's the story there? I posted this before but no one answered me the first time <!-- s
Shlama Christina,
The anti- in Antichrist can mean "instead of" or "(over) against." It seems odd the more I think about it though...
because the Greek usually uses the prefix "pseudo-" for 'false'. pseudo-prophetes for 'false prophet, etc.
I'm not sure why Zorba (forum expression for 'Greek translator') did not follow suit here as well with 'pseudo-Christos.'
You'd think he would of !!! ....hmmmm <!-- s:dontgetit: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/dontgetit.gif" alt=":dontgetit:" title="Dont Get It" /><!-- s:dontgetit: --> <!-- s
Shlama w'Burkate, Larry Kelsey
So no one knows why Zorba choose to render it "anti-Christos"? <!-- s:dontgetit: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/dontgetit.gif" alt=":dontgetit:" title="Dont Get It" /><!-- s:dontgetit: --> <!-- s:eh: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/eh.gif" alt=":eh:" title="Eh" /><!-- s:eh: -->
Re: Question for Paul - Paul Younan - 03-03-2008
Christina Wrote:So no one knows why Zorba choose to render it "anti-Christos"? <!-- s:dontgetit: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/dontgetit.gif" alt=":dontgetit:" title="Dont Get It" /><!-- s:dontgetit: --> <!-- s:eh: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/eh.gif" alt=":eh:" title="Eh" /><!-- s:eh: -->
Not sure except that it sounds cool in English. "Meshikha Dagala" (lit., "Lying Messiah") is the usual term used in Aramaic.
Re: Question for Paul - Christina - 03-03-2008
Paul Younan Wrote:Christina Wrote:So no one knows why Zorba choose to render it "anti-Christos"? <!-- s:dontgetit: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/dontgetit.gif" alt=":dontgetit:" title="Dont Get It" /><!-- s:dontgetit: --> <!-- s:eh: --><img src="{SMILIES_PATH}/eh.gif" alt=":eh:" title="Eh" /><!-- s:eh: -->
Not sure except that it sounds cool in English. "Meshikha Dagala" (lit., "Lying Messiah") is the usual term used in Aramaic.
That sounds a lot like the Arabic "al-Masiah ad-Dajjal".
Re: Question for Paul - Paul Younan - 03-03-2008
Christina Wrote:That sounds a lot like the Arabic "al-Masiah ad-Dajjal".
Yep, remember Bahira?